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Re: Prius: Statement or Rationality? [dmathews3] by wvgasguy
May 01, 2009 (6:16 pm)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (May 01, 2009 5:45 pm)

far as the people overseas living in caves etc. they have been fighting for thousands of years and I bet they fight for another 2K years so I'm not going to drive a small car as it isn't going to do a bit of good
 
True, and they will continue. But on 9-11 they brought the fight to us
 
If 1 in 10 depend on Chrysler for our jobs then the other 9 must depend on Ford and GM. I really doubt that all of us would not have jobs if the Big 3 went away (not that I want them to)
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Breaks my heart by rick294
May 01, 2009 (7:46 pm)
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It just breaks my heart that all of our own domestic reserves will stay in the ground, untouched during this current administration. And all for purely political reasons. We have considerably more available oil than even Saudi Arabia and the others, but it won't be tapped. The enviros are part of Obama's support group. His energy "czar" is on record as having stated that he (the czar) is in favor of $6 or $8 per gallon gasoline because it will curtail a lot of vehicle use "which contributes to air pollution".
Well, yes it does. Never mind that it would destroy what's left of the American economy. That's not the really important issue. I love our Prius. Even if gas prices go absolutely over the cliff, we would still have at least some ability to get around. It would, however, pretty much destroy America. Almost as though that was what the whole idea was??
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Re: Breaks my heart [rick294] by kdhspyder
May 02, 2009 (5:32 am)
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Replying to: rick294 (May 01, 2009 7:46 pm)

Sorry this is not accurate. We do not have more reserves than anyone. Canada has far more and it's currently being mined. But.... it needs the price of oil to rise to near $75-90 / bbl in order to make it worthwhile to work the tar sand.
 
All our 'easy oil' is gone or near gone. The low-lying fruit has all been picked. Bush's Energy Task Force reported this in summer 2007. You can now get down off your high horse.
 
It's supposed to rain today and golf is cancelled..that is not Obama's fault..even tho the local GOP already has a press release out stating that very fact.
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Insurance More for Prius by oldsarg
May 02, 2009 (6:11 am)
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To my shock I received my policy from my insurance carrier and found out that full coverage on a Prius is $1004.60 per year and $760.30 per year for a Lexus RX330. I called my rep and he said that the Prius would cost more to repair than a Lexus and has proven to sustain more damage. After all the glowing safety reports from the Prius crowd on this site, I was shocked.
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Re: Insurance More for Prius [oldsarg] by kdhspyder
May 02, 2009 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: oldsarg (May 02, 2009 6:11 am)

Safety and damage repair are two completely different issues with the insurance companies. Yes both concern accidents but vehicles are intentionally designed to collapse around the passenger cabin deflecting the effects of a crash around the occupants in order to keep them safe.
 
Your Lexus is several years old also. How old/new is the Prius?
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Re: Ben Stein Expelled by acar1
May 02, 2009 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: rick294 (May 01, 2009 1:30 pm)

This is an intelligent design film, for those of you who appreciate the irony of "intelligent design" as the premise for taking the Bible literally.
 
And no, I don't think Ben Stein has the scientific background to assess whether or not the planet's mechanisms to cope with CO2 can react fast enough to mitigate the current rapid rise in that green house gas. To say nothing of other naturally occurring green house gases, like Methane, that are also rising due to humans.
 
Glad you enjoy your Prius. Hope you aren't teaching your kids that Darwinism led to the Holocaust per Ben Stein.
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Re: Odds & Ends [kdhspyder] by acar1
May 02, 2009 (9:37 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Apr 28, 2009 8:44 am)

4 wheel drive mode, eh?
 
you actually graduated from college?
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Re: Odds & Ends [acar1] by wvgasguy
May 02, 2009 (1:09 pm)
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Replying to: acar1 (May 02, 2009 9:37 am)

I think Bob was applying a little humor to the conversation to lighten it up some
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Re: Odds & Ends [wvgasguy] by kdhspyder
May 02, 2009 (1:32 pm)
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Replying to: wvgasguy (May 02, 2009 1:09 pm)

Ya think?
 
'But the sales guy told me everything was pushbutton, even the 4WD'. Wait, I was the sales guy. Oh yeah that's right I sold it to myself [ acid reaction from the 60's ].
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Re: making a statement? [tiff_c] by wvgasguy
May 03, 2009 (6:34 am)
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Replying to: tiff_c (May 01, 2009 12:11 pm)

So cut Obama some slack
 
Actually I never mentioned him in my posting. However after just watching the news it does seem to me that rather than give money to Chrysler all he would have needed to do was come out and endorse Chrysler and the masses that are watching every move he makes and are simpy ga-ga over everything he does would buy a Chrysler. That would have saved them and not cost me anything.
 
It does bother me that there is a lot of Anti-"Foreign" auto talk going on and as far as I'm concerned the Ford Fusion Hybrid is the only example of Detroit trying to help the environmental problems that the Political Left are touting and the dependance on foreign oil issues the Political Right is concerned about. Unfortunately both sides are still buying gas guzzlers.
 
But all the talk has to hurt Toyota Prius, Camry Hybrid and Highlander Hybrid some, if not in sales then at least in public acceptance.
 
The "average" Joe thinks hybrids are hyped. I just don't get it. I'm driving an SUV that gets 25 mpg. I had a car that averaged 37+ and am looking at one that should give me 50+ in the Prius. Even the "average" Joe should see that Toyota is designing a wide range of vehicles that as as good as you can get right now. They are so far ahead of the curve it's funny to compare them to anyone else.
 
IF they would just make their cars somewhat more flashy and handle a tad better then most of the critism would have to disappear. Seriously what would it cost to make the camry Hybrid have just a little better suspension? Personally I thought the new camry is a good looking car and the people I hear critizing the looks now look like obvious Toyota haters and not really judging the car on its looks. The Prius is a little funky looking but the 2010 is crossing the threshold of something I wouldn't be embarrased to be in The Highlander Hybrid is comfortable, has a great second row seat and is very versitile.
 
Don't expect me to buy American until they offer me acceptable options to Toyota.

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