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#7362 of 7508 Re: OK to leave Prius undriven for periods of time? [railroadjames]
Jan 15, 2009 (9:37 am)
James: I am in a situation similar to you. I have a 2004 (only 50,000 miles) and love the car. I have been waiting for the new version for several years. Now it looks like it will not have Li-On batteries when it comes out but that will not deter me.
I have had two instances of "dead battery", one a week after I got the car and a second about a year ago. Both times a quick jump was all it took to start the computer, then the big battery started the car.
I've since made the cigarette lighter "ON" all the time so I could plug in a small 12V Autosport Jumper battery to start the computer. That should work but I never actually tried it and that battery is always dead.
I am thinking about changing the small Prius battery just based upon age. Since I didn't do it before this winter started, I will probably do it next fall. Does anyone know if there are other sources for that size battery or must it come from Toyota. The $153 price is high but not impossible if that is the only source. I will ask my Toyota dealer and post his reply.
#7363 of 7508 Re: OK to leave Prius undriven for periods of time? [stevegold]
Jan 15, 2009 (8:52 pm)
Maybe a battery test of the "small" battery is in order and could tell you the condition of your battery? These are almost as special as the "big" batteries. I have been unable to locate any non Toyota small batteries. No other supplier is available at this time as far as I know. Keep in touch
#7364 of 7508 Diff btwn Toyota 'full' hybrid and New Insight 'mild' hybrid?
Jan 22, 2009 (7:19 am)
If I don't get a new Fit , I'm going to get on a waiting list for the new Honda Insight or next year's new 2010 Prius.
But would someone please explain the difference between a mild hybrid and a full hybrid? Is the fundamental difference that a Toyota Hybrid system can move forward / propel itself on its electric battery power alone (up to a certain speed) while the Honda Hybrid system ALWAYS has to have its ICE gas engine on?
Do they both shut down at redlights and stop signs? Any hesitation on re-start (safety concern - I don't want to be T-boned when ready to turn left)?
#7365 of 7508 Re: Diff btwn Toyota 'full' hybrid and New Insight 'mild' hybrid? [johnxyz]
Jan 22, 2009 (10:40 am)
I just read about this two days ago, and already I've forgotten what I read! However, the Honda Fit is a superb vehicle. It was great for 08 and ever better for 09 (what I've read). I believe that the info you provided about the diff between full and mild hybrids is correct, however. Don't be concerned about being T-boned. There is NO lag, whatsoever, in restarting. The slightest touch on the gas pedal restarts the vehicle instantly. The Toyota products do get a bit better mileage over the Hondas, and yes, it has to do with their individual hybrid systems. Try not to be in too much of a rush to buy. Over the next two years, hybrids and full plug-ins are going to be coming on line fast. If unsure which way to go on hybrids, buy the Fit. My wife and I have a 2008 Prius. We just love it, regardless of the price of gas. Our new president is reportedly not interested in going after our own oil resources and that is going to create another gas crisis, guaranteed.
#7366 of 7508 Re: Diff btwn Toyota 'full' hybrid and New Insight 'mild' hybrid? [johnxyz]
Jan 22, 2009 (12:29 pm)
It seems that you have already done so but you should drive all three vehicles and see which one suits you best. Everyone's needs and preferences are different. Mine was .. first consideration, all compacts were eliminated.
Regarding the shutoff/startup feature it's a non-issue in the Prius. In most cases when you're at a light or at a turn you will be the first one off the line by at least a car length. That's due to the high insta-torque feature of the e-motor. The Prius will never win a drag race against a modern V6 but it will be 'off the line' quicker. It's very nearly the same as the early 2000's I4s.
#7367 of 7508 Re: Diff btwn Toyota 'full' hybrid and New Insight 'mild' hybrid? [kdhspyder]
Jan 22, 2009 (12:39 pm)
Thanks rick294 & kdhspyder - good info on the instant start - no need to worry.
Do you know however whether or not the new Insight is able to move forward silently under electric power only or is the gas engine always on? I understand that the Prius can propel itself under electric only - the strong torque that you referenced above.
Just want to clarify this point. I think that would be the difference btwn full (Toy) and mild (Honda) hybrid.
Is this an important consideration in purchase? Thanks again.
#7368 of 7508 SUV to Prius?
Jan 22, 2009 (6:21 pm)
Simple question, especially for Toyota salespeople like kdhspyder: has anyone ever experienced or even heard of someone trading in an SUV on a Prius (or getting rid of the SUV some other way in favor of a Prius)? Or in other words, can an SUVer find happiness with the Prius?
#7369 of 7508 Re: SUV to Prius? [backy]
Jan 22, 2009 (7:11 pm)
I don't see why not. We traded a minivan for one.
#7370 of 7508 Re: SUV to Prius? [grandtotal]
Jan 22, 2009 (7:23 pm)
Thanks, but I was specifically wondering about an SUV-for-Prius swap.
Back in 2004 I was all set to move from a minivan to a Prius, but a delay in getting the Prius nixed that. But I could be making that jump in a few years when we say good-bye to our last-ever (?) minivan.
#7371 of 7508 Re: Diff btwn Toyota 'full' hybrid and New Insight 'mild' hybrid? [johnxyz]
Jan 22, 2009 (9:40 pm)
No in Honda's IMA hybrid system the e-motor is just an assist for the ICE. It doesn't drive the vehicle by itself.