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Re: problem with smart key [boots3] by kdhspyder
Nov 24, 2008 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: boots3 (Nov 23, 2008 5:55 am)

Unfortunately you were not given a complete 'delivery' when you purchased your Prius. It takes about an hour to do it correctly.
 
Not being in your shoes I can only guess what's happening. Since you can start the vehicle with the fob in your pocket then you presumably have a Package #2 - #6. Package #1 is mainly for rental vehicles and does not have the SKS enabled. Since the push button start works with the fob in your pocket then the 'KEY' button under the steering wheel is not pushed in deactivating the 5 sensors.
 
When your approach one of the two front doors you should only touch the inside of the door handle. Don't touch the door handle and touch the black button on the outside at the same time ( see below ). There are 5 proximity sensors in your vehicle that will recognize the fob when you come within a meter of one of them. You must be within range for the SKS to be enabled. You can't stand 15 ft away and have someone else try to walk up and get into the vehicle.
 
The black button on the outside of the two front doors are intended only for locking the vehicle when you walk away. It serves no other purpose. After you close the doors just press the black square button and all 5 doors will lock.
 
You can't lock the vehicle with the engine running.
You can't lock the vehicle with the engine off but with the fob still inside the car.
You can lock the vehicle with the engine off but with one or two passengers in the front seats. There are weight sensors designed into the SKS system. Amazingly smart.
You can lock the vehicle with the engine running if you use the 'secret' manual key and the keyhole in the driver's door. Good for pets in the summertime. Another amazingly well thought out nuance.
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Re: problem with smart key [boots3] by grandtotal
Nov 24, 2008 (4:01 pm)
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Replying to: boots3 (Nov 23, 2008 11:03 am)

I left one of the smart keys in the car. Apparently, the system would not allow the car to be unlocked without the press of the button as part of the anti-theft system.
 
You cannot lock the car using one of the external buttons when a key fob is in the car either. You have to use a remote button.
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OK to leave Prius undriven for periods of time? by vanderhorstg
Jan 13, 2009 (2:46 pm)
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I'm going to be in Hawaii for 3 weeks and leaving my 2006 Prius in the driveway. I don't have the Smart Key system, just the basic key fob. for locking/unlocking the doors & starting the car. I typically drive it everyday day, 5-10 miles, and at least one freeway trip of 120 miles/week. Please confirm that I don't need to have my cat-sitter add starting the Prius to her list of duties! I live in the Pacific Northwest where we "typically" have mild winters...
I love my Prius, and want to keep her healthy!
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Re: OK to leave Prius undriven for periods of time? [vanderhorstg] by kdhspyder
Jan 13, 2009 (5:06 pm)
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Replying to: vanderhorstg (Jan 13, 2009 2:46 pm)

No you don't have to leave your Prius with a carsitter. It's only the 5 SKS antennas that need to be disabled for trips of more than 4 weeks. Since yours doesn't have the SKS don't worry.
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Re: OK to leave Prius undriven for periods of time? [kdhspyder] by vanderhorstg
Jan 13, 2009 (5:40 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 13, 2009 5:06 pm)

Thank you so much!
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Re: OK to leave Prius undriven for periods of time? [vanderhorstg] by dmathews3
Jan 13, 2009 (6:23 pm)
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Replying to: vanderhorstg (Jan 13, 2009 5:40 pm)

Anyone who can afford to go to the big island can afford a jump when they get home. Just kidding. Enjoy, It supposed to be below 0 here tonight so I wish I was going too.
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Re: OK to leave Prius undriven for periods of time? [vanderhorstg] by railroadjames
Jan 15, 2009 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: vanderhorstg (Jan 13, 2009 2:46 pm)

As my local dealer made clear to me, the Prius should be fine. He said that in rare cases the "Smart Key" models have been prone to occasional drainage and, more often than not, because of owner mistakes. I own an '04 Prius with all original batteries. Not one problem. By the way. I just recently checked with my local dealer "Lake-Shore Toyota in Burns Harbor, Indiana and the cost of replacment of ...small utility battery..$152.57 and the large battery..$2,588.00. He also pointed out that he's never replaced one Lrg. Battery in 6 yrs. and he also pointed out that a few Large batteries have been serviced by replacement of only "bad cell" units thus reduceing the cost of repair although he has yet to do this service his dealership. This is good to know. Shop around. My car is closing in on 100K miles and 6 yrs of touble free service. Whats not to like?
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Re: OK to leave Prius undriven for periods of time? [railroadjames] by stevegold
Jan 15, 2009 (9:37 am)
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Replying to: railroadjames (Jan 15, 2009 9:13 am)

James: I am in a situation similar to you. I have a 2004 (only 50,000 miles) and love the car. I have been waiting for the new version for several years. Now it looks like it will not have Li-On batteries when it comes out but that will not deter me.
I have had two instances of "dead battery", one a week after I got the car and a second about a year ago. Both times a quick jump was all it took to start the computer, then the big battery started the car.
I've since made the cigarette lighter "ON" all the time so I could plug in a small 12V Autosport Jumper battery to start the computer. That should work but I never actually tried it and that battery is always dead.
I am thinking about changing the small Prius battery just based upon age. Since I didn't do it before this winter started, I will probably do it next fall. Does anyone know if there are other sources for that size battery or must it come from Toyota. The $153 price is high but not impossible if that is the only source. I will ask my Toyota dealer and post his reply.
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Re: OK to leave Prius undriven for periods of time? [stevegold] by railroadjames
Jan 15, 2009 (8:52 pm)
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Replying to: stevegold (Jan 15, 2009 9:37 am)

Maybe a battery test of the "small" battery is in order and could tell you the condition of your battery? These are almost as special as the "big" batteries. I have been unable to locate any non Toyota small batteries. No other supplier is available at this time as far as I know. Keep in touch
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Diff btwn Toyota 'full' hybrid and New Insight 'mild' hybrid? by johnxyz
Jan 22, 2009 (7:19 am)
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Hello,
If I don't get a new Fit , I'm going to get on a waiting list for the new Honda Insight or next year's new 2010 Prius.
 
But would someone please explain the difference between a mild hybrid and a full hybrid? Is the fundamental difference that a Toyota Hybrid system can move forward / propel itself on its electric battery power alone (up to a certain speed) while the Honda Hybrid system ALWAYS has to have its ICE gas engine on?
 
Do they both shut down at redlights and stop signs? Any hesitation on re-start (safety concern - I don't want to be T-boned when ready to turn left)?
  
Thank you.

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