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15000 mile checkup price by theking
Oct 21, 2008 (1:24 pm)
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I need feedback for price on 15,000 mile checkup at a dealer,which would not include a new air filter element as mine is as clean as could be..
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Real world MPG from Texas by jimlockey
Nov 08, 2008 (6:32 am)
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I'm thinking about buying an 09 Prius and have some questions.
 
What mpg would you get with the air condioner running and driving at 70 mph?
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Re: Real world MPG from Texas [jimlockey] by stevegold
Nov 08, 2008 (7:03 am)
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Replying to: jimlockey (Nov 08, 2008 6:32 am)

I have a 2004 Prius. On interstate highways, going at 70-80mph, I get 40-45mph with the A/C on. If you hold it down to 70, you'll get 45-50 maybe even more. The onboard computer calculations are pretty accurate so a test drive should confirm this. Going uphill, snow tires, head winds all are adverse factors but they should generally average out. It's hard to better that with any other similar size car.
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Over all Gas Mileage by dmathews3
Nov 08, 2008 (7:33 am)
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Has anyone figured out what it costs to replace the batteries in the Prius? How long do they last. Yes now you get 45mpg but against about 35+ on another simular car. But how does this all average out after battery replacement. Will you still be ahead of the gas only car or will it overtake you at the end. Another question. What happens when both cars are traded in at about 5 or 6 years and the Prius is at or near the end of the battery lifespan. Do you take a hosing on trade and end up with a lot less than the gas car or what. Has anyone gone through this yet and what are everyones ideas on this.
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Re: Real world MPG from Texas [jimlockey] by kdhspyder
Nov 08, 2008 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: jimlockey (Nov 08, 2008 6:32 am)

Having the AC on or off doesn't affect the fuel economy that much. In fact it doesn't affect it directly at all.
 
In all the Toyota hybrids the AC is electric, running off the main traction battery. There is no connection to the ICE at all. Thus when driving at 70+ mpg with the AC you shouldn't notice any difference in fuel economy. What will happen though is that in times of heavy usage the battery will have more draw on it if the AC is on and you are accelerating strongly thus it will need to be charged somewhat more often by the ICE.
 
This electric AC feature is one of the great innovations in this 2nd generation of hybrids. There is no free lunch of course because the battery gets charged ultimately from the action of burning fuel in the ICE. But it's very efficient, moreso than a traditional ICE vehicle.
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Re: Over all Gas Mileage [dmathews3] by kdhspyder
Nov 08, 2008 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Nov 08, 2008 7:33 am)

These questions have been asked ever since the hybrids first arrived. Here are the short answers ( details can be found all over the web ).
 
1. The batteries never need to be replaced. NEVER! There is no schedule for replacement. Initially it was wondered how long they would last. It seems now after 11 yrs on the road that they truly will last the life of the vehicle, 200K for sure! 300K probably. 400K why not?
 
2. What is the cost of replacement? 2 months ago Toyota announce the following retail prices ....
Gen 1 batteries $2289 + labor
Gen 2 batteries $2599 + labor
 
Immediately some Toyota stores offered discounts under $2000.
 
3. Since there is no lifespan for the batteries and they do not need to be replaced buyers are finding that the resale values of used Prius' are higher than the non-hybrids.
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Sun or moon roof by jaime9
Nov 12, 2008 (9:28 pm)
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I want a roof that opens installed on my 2007 Prius. I need to know how many options are there?
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Re: Sun or moon roof [jaime9] by kdhspyder
Nov 13, 2008 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: jaime9 (Nov 12, 2008 9:28 pm)

I don't believe it's possible and it may void your warranty(s) if something fails down the road. I believe it has something to do with the SKS.
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Re: Sun or moon roof [jaime9] by stevegold
Nov 13, 2008 (8:49 am)
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Replying to: jaime9 (Nov 12, 2008 9:28 pm)

My nephew Bruce had a sunroof installed in his 2006 Prius. No problems. He lives in CA. He also did leather seats before they were available OEM.
Give me your email address and I'll pass it on to him.
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Re: Sun or moon roof [kdhspyder] by grandtotal
Nov 13, 2008 (8:51 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Nov 13, 2008 8:05 am)

It is possible, I have seen one. I have no idea who made it or installed it. The installers would have had to take great care to avoid damaging the bracing members behind the head lining. I don't think I would do it myself.

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