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Re: No more Priuses [tiff_c] by doffer
Jul 30, 2008 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Jul 30, 2008 6:09 am)

The dealers may do this as a marketing ploy to get people to inquire about cars, availability notwithstanding, or perhaps they are just not timely in updating their website. If that's the case, then it makes you wonder about the dealership and how many other things are they not doing timely or correctly....
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Out of Stock by tiff_c
Jul 30, 2008 (12:41 pm)
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I clearly do not fall into the gotta have it category. In 2 years the market will be flooded and dealers will be begging from every contact they ignored right now. Fact is it's a shortage because no one expected the Prius to sell like it has.
Gas will drop some and that will ease off the demand.
Lots of nice cars out there but my wife doesn't like the Corolla or the Civic (we have an Si). She likes riding in the Si but prefers the Prius or the Fit for visibility.
30mpg is what I get in the Si combined City and highway, and that's with 10% ethanol in the gas year round.
We are going to wait and either buy a new Fit or Yaris or get a next Gen Hybrid in 2010.
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Re: No more Priuses [doffer] by grandtotal
Jul 30, 2008 (2:46 pm)
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Replying to: doffer (Jul 30, 2008 8:02 am)

She likes riding in the Si but prefers the Prius or the Fit for visibility.
 
That's the first time I have heard anybody accuse the Prius of good visibility. I find it one of Prius' minor bad points.
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Re: No more Priuses [grandtotal] by kdhspyder
Jul 30, 2008 (3:32 pm)
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Replying to: grandtotal (Jul 30, 2008 2:46 pm)

I like the visibility in the Prius better than my 4 previous Camry's and my wife's MR2 and Solara Convertibles. That back window issue is of no concern if the mirrors are set up right, especially with the backup camera.
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Re: No more Priuses [grandtotal] by tiff_c
Jul 30, 2008 (8:55 pm)
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Replying to: grandtotal (Jul 30, 2008 2:46 pm)

That's the first time I have heard anybody accuse the Prius of good visibility. I find it one of Prius' minor bad points.
 
My wife is very short and has trouble seeing out the back of most cars. The Prius has that rear window in the hatch which works very well for her and she's comfy enough behind the wheel with the limited adjustments that it has. It does have very thick A pillars but so does my Civic Si.
Rear visibility in a Civic isn't very good. You can't see the nose or the tail.
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Re: Prius over rated? [scottc3] by jwindmon
Aug 09, 2008 (4:22 pm)
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Replying to: scottc3 (Jul 27, 2008 9:16 am)

I said that the Prius is "OVER-RATED" <---------This doesn't mean "bad car".I just had to clear that up, because it seems as if people think that is the definition of what over rated means or something. I dont know, maybe its just me.(Didnt think anyone would get their GREEN panties in a bunch over 1 mans opinion. BUT ANYWAY, I feel that the prius is a GOOD car. I just dont see the prius being the number 1 vehicle choice of anyone thats trying to save gas.( The whole reason we are trying to save on gas is to keep money in our pockets. Right? Then tell me why the heck would I pay $10,000-$15,000 more on a vehicle up-front just to save pennies at the pump down the line. Just doesn't make sense to me. You WOULD BE better off getting a yaris vs getting a prius. By the way . . .scotty . . . .(the SX4 thing was an example) I own a Honda).Toyota has always made a hella nice vehicle. I just know that toyota isnt the only one making quality cars anymore. Times have changed. Suzuki is the number 1 selling car in JAPAN though. (just in case you didnt know that) Its funny because A LOT of the people at toyota factories in japan drive Suzuki's to work. The reason me and quite a few others left the toyota dealership here is because they treated employees AND CUSTOMERS like crap. The rest are looking for new jobs as we type. But since you like stats so much scotty . . .find out how long it takes to break even when you buy a prius. Then find out how long people usually keep their cars before they trade them in for something else. THEEEENN tell me if it still makes sense to buy a prius just to save gas.
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Re: Prius over rated? [jwindmon] by kdhspyder
Aug 09, 2008 (9:17 pm)
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Replying to: jwindmon (Aug 09, 2008 4:22 pm)

The key point that you miss in this is that you're viewing this from the perspective only of a $15000 - $20000 buyer. In this case your are exactly corrent it makes NO sense to spend $25000 for a vehicle to save a few thousand $$ in gas.
 
Now view this from the perspective of a $30000 - $45000 vehicle buyer who also doesn't want to spend extra money on gas. There are MILLIONS of these buyers out there in NA. They will not ever consider a $15000 or $19000 vehicle under any circumstance.....but they DO want to save money on gas. Most can afford the extra expense of $4 per gallon gas it's just that they choose NOT to spend it if they can get away from doing so. So they choose the most efficient $25000 - $30000 vehicle they can.
 
To address your breakeven question...again you are viewing it from a lower-income- level buyer. What if the $28000 price is $5000 lower than you normally spend on a vehicle. Heck in this case you're already $5000 ahead of the game.....then there's a savings on gas on top of that.
 
The Prius and HCH are not just for those scrimping to make the rent payment. In fact these buyers should NOT be buying a new vehicle anyway.
 
This is the gold mine that Toyota and Honda discovered and are mining now.
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Front leg room - 2007 Prius vs 2008 Prius by davew13
Aug 09, 2008 (10:55 pm)
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Is the front seat legroom different in the 2008 Prius vs. the 2007? I sat in a new 2008 and my legs were very cramped (I'm 6'6") but when I sat in a used 2007 there seemed to be more room. Vehicle specs for both years show the same amount of space, so I'm wondering if there is a slight difference in how the seats are set, etc. Does anyone know if there's a difference? Any input will be greatly appreciated!
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Re: Prius over rated? [kdhspyder] by kayen
Aug 10, 2008 (3:59 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Aug 09, 2008 9:17 pm)

Instead of just thinking about purchase price, one has to consider trade in value at the end of ownership. You can be sure that the residual on a Prius or HCH will be far greater than a non hybrid. I traded in a Lexus ES350 for my Prius and couldn't be happier. I feel it is more of a correct car for today and I feel like a kid in it all over again. It is also easier getting in and out of spaces as well as my garage. Every family should have one high mileage vehicle to counter gas price fluctuations.
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Re: Prius over rated? [kayen] by kdhspyder
Aug 10, 2008 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: kayen (Aug 10, 2008 3:59 am)

Precisely and well stated. There are literally millions like you in NA.
 
With the risk of gas going toward $6 within the next 6 yrs not wanting to waste money on fuel is not reserved only for the struggling young couples. Everyone is concerned about potentially setting too much money on fire. However this desire to save fuel dollars doesn't relegate everyone to a $15000 beater/econobox.

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