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Prius over rated? by scottc3
Jul 27, 2008 (9:16 am)
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"I know that the Toyota Prius is over rated because I used to sell them. You would be better off buying a car that gets 30+ mpg. They used to tell us that in the meetings when I worked at toyota. They thought it was funny. It makes perfect sense. Why pay $10,000 more on a vehicle at the time of purchase just to save pennies at the pump over time. It takes YEARS to just break even when you buy a prius. I wouldn't ever buy a prius. I just cant see paying $25,000 for a prius when I can get a a SX4 (which is rated better than the over priced corolla) for $15,000. You do the math!!! -Jerome Windmon "
 
----- Hey Jerome - Thanks for your insight. Sorry you don't work at Toyota any longer, it's one of the top selling manufacturers in the US.. and their quality is always appreciated. Why did you leave? How long were you there? We all know the turn-over is car sales people is very high, but leave Toyota ? Here's what is interesting to me, when a car salesman works for a certain company, it's the 'best' car manufacturer in the world, as your pay check relies on this. Then you change jobs and there is always something wrong the the last manufacturer...
 
--- Will you be suggesting a motorcycle next, much less expensive, better than average gas mileage.
 
Here is my point, the Prius is a very nice car for the money. It's not for everyone. If the only reason you buy a Prius is for gas mileage, this may be a mistake. Can anyone think of other reasons to buy a Prius? I can think of several, but I'll let you (the reader) come up with your own reasons.
 
Hey, Grandtotal... have you looked at a Toyota Yaris? Yes, a Toyota, but not many will argue about the price vs quality of a Toyota. Personally, I'd buy a Toyota over a Suzuki any day of the week, based on manufacturing and quality - and years of being a top selling manufacturer... but that's just me.
 
Just for fun, I looked up car manufacturer ratings..
Toyota – 3.66
Suzuki – 2.97
(A huge difference!)
Just for reference – BMW – 3.67, Mercedes, 3.33
 
Here is the site these numbers came from…
http://mycarstats.com/ratings/100makes_all_years.asp
 
As a final thought, look at all the Prius's sold. If we were to assume all the buyers have NOT done the math, I think we can agree this would be a faulty statement. I'm sure there are a few smart buyers out there.. and they bought the Prius for some reason.
 
Hope you enjoy your new Suzuki.
 
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Re: Prius over rated? [scottc3] by grandtotal
Jul 27, 2008 (6:47 pm)
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Replying to: scottc3 (Jul 27, 2008 9:16 am)

scottc3,
 
My reply to jwindmon was tongue in cheek. There is no way I'd trade in my Prius for a Suzuki or anything else for that matter. I know exactly why I bought it and saving money on fuel was only one reason, and not even the most important at that. The Yaris while fine value for money is too small for our needs. Why does everybody compare Prius to Yaris? I think it must be because they have the same size gas engine, but really that's where the similarity ends (except that they both have core Toyota values).
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Thinking of ordering a Prius-will 2 large dogs fit? by 2dogsinva
Jul 28, 2008 (5:21 am)
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I have 2 dogs - both about 100lbs each. I am considering purchasing a Prius...but will both of my dogs fit in the back?
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Re: Thinking of ordering a Prius-will 2 large dogs fit? [2dogsinva] by stevedebi
Jul 28, 2008 (11:38 am)
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Replying to: 2dogsinva (Jul 28, 2008 5:21 am)

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Contact the dealer and ask them if you can bring in the "4 legged kids" to see if they fit comfortably. It is worth a try.
 
Are you planning to crate them, or just let them roam free back there?
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Re: Prius over rated? [grandtotal] by rick294
Jul 28, 2008 (12:56 pm)
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Replying to: grandtotal (Jul 27, 2008 6:47 pm)

Also, the Prius if often compared to the Matrix. Don't know why that is, either. It really doesn't compare to much of anything else, actually. It has approximately the same interior space of a Camry and is shorter than a Corolla, slightly. I see them categorized as compact cars, but they really qualify as intermediates, because interior volume is how the classes are differentiated, not exterior size. Go figure.
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Re: Prius over rated? [rick294] by kdhspyder
Jul 28, 2008 (3:08 pm)
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Replying to: rick294 (Jul 28, 2008 12:56 pm)

In a slick trick of marketing hocus pocus Toyota has created a stand-alone vehicle that really isn't a stand-alone vehicle.
 
It appears smaller than a Corolla but it has far more room inside
It is smaller than a Camry but it has far more usable room
It's a 5 door hatch where the other two are 4 door sedans..
 
What other 4 cyl 5 door hatch does Toyota produce? It's the Matrix. Not by coincidence alone, the ICE-only Matrix is almost exactly the same size as the Prius and it's about $3500 less in price than the Prius. That's the 'hybrid premium'.
 
Same configuration
Same room inside
Both are 4cyl vehicles
Same equipment
One has a hybrid upgrade and gets 48 mpg on average.
One is a traditional ICE and gets 27 mpg on average.
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Re: Prius over rated? [grandtotal] by rick294
Jul 29, 2008 (11:58 am)
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Replying to: grandtotal (Jul 27, 2008 6:47 pm)

We bought our Package #2 Prius December 26, 07. Not long before they totally disappeared from dealer lots and the lines began to form. We love it. We are well aware that we could buy, say, a Corolla that gets in the high 30's with the benefit of a gas/electric engine for less money. However: one unexpected, but huge benefit has been (after the fact, no less) is that our car, with nearly 14k miles on it, could be sold at any time for at least what we paid for it. It is truly rare for a car to hold its value such as this one has. At least so far. That won't always be the case, as more variety and availability is going to start showing up over the next couple of years and hybrids will be much more common.
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Re: Prius over rated? [kdhspyder] by jpeters1970
Jul 30, 2008 (4:05 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jul 28, 2008 3:08 pm)

I agree wholeheartedly. Some folks just don't get it. I wonder what will happen when the $40k Chevy Volt finally appears. Will arguments be made against that vehicle as well? It is pricey but definitely a step in the right direction. The Prius is a great vehicle at a good price point. That's why it sells like hotcakes!
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No more Priuses by tiff_c
Jul 30, 2008 (6:09 am)
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Someone had told me might be this forum or another one in CarSpace that there were 10 Prius available at a dealer in the State next to me. These dealers do not take cars off of their website. So all the Priuses are sold and websites are not updated.
So if you rely on dealer websites it's probably inaccurate.
In New England the earliest for delivery is Winter.
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Re: No more Priuses [tiff_c] by rick294
Jul 30, 2008 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Jul 30, 2008 6:09 am)

I have a 2008 Prius, but you know, if I were wishing for one right now, I wouldn't play the "gotta have one at any price" game. Heck with that. There are alternatives that come within shouting distance of the Prius (mileage-wise) that don't cost as much. Corolla, Civic, etc. Dealers, being what they are, will likely charge sticker for them. It's the times we're in, folks.

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