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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jul 03, 2006 2:52 pm)  Since 1981 I've never lived and worked in the same state even.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jul 03, 2006 7:46 pm) That sounds like my job. Except I only traveled once every 3 weeks to and from work. I would slit my wrists if I had to go out and face the traffic every day like you do. I left CA in 1970 and moved to Alaska because of the traffic. Now it is 100 times worse than ever. No one has enough money to get me to live in a big city or go out on the highway every day going to a job. It is a decision each of us has to make. I chose to fly to work every 3 weeks, First Class of course. |
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Replying to: john1701a (Jul 03, 2006 9:35 am) To me, I see it as a really practical, roomy, and comfortable car, and it's a bonus that it happens to be such an efficient hybrid. My only concern is how the car will look in 5-10 years' time, that is, will it look weird and outdated?
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Replying to: Canc (Jul 08, 2006 5:11 am) People wondered that about the Classic model Prius 6 years ago, since it appeared odd. Now you can look at one with some disappointment, since it blends into the crowd of newer vehicles so well. Being ahead of the curve is a strange situation. It's inevitable that increased aerodynamics catch on for practicality reasons. That's true for hatchbacks as well, especially from former guzzling SUV drivers use to a large cargo area. Prius already has both in its favor. JOHN
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Replying to: john1701a (Jul 08, 2006 5:20 am) Thanks for your really informative website btw--I'm just wondering, after all your research, have you found that Priuses are more expensive to maintain in the long run? I'm the only hybrid lover in the family, and they all try to convince me that the Prius is not a reasonable choice for a car, given the higher initial cost and possible failure of all those electrical components. I still think the Prius is one of the best cars out there, regardless of what they say, but I'd like your feedback on this as a Prius owner. Thanks!
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Replying to: Canc (Jul 08, 2006 5:29 am) First it is mainly an ICE vehicle so the engine has to be maintained in the same way; oil, filters, air filter. These are all at 6 mo/5K intervals just as with any Toyota now. Similarly the plugs are designed for 100K mi+, the same as any other ICE. However the hybrid system needs little or no maintenance. - the batteries '..are expected to last the life of the vehicle with no deterioration' according to Toyota; $0 cost likely - the transaxel needs a coolant change at 60K; small fee in most places - the brakes may take you in excess of 100K miles since a good part of your slowing will be 'gliding' to a stop. Your personal situation may differ though. significantly lower maintenance likely Risks (?): Most new vehicles ( Prius' included ) are rolling computers. There is a lot of relatively expensive electronics in any new vehicle. This in itself is the reason I'd consider a 100K warranty to extend the 3 yr/36K Basic Warranty. There is already a 100K warranty for the hybrid components and the drivetrains are the longest lasting components of nearly every Toyota. The electronics however are normally covered by the 3/36 Basic warranty. You have this risk with any modern, Toyota, Honda, Lexus, BMW, Nissan, etc. Whether to insure or not is your personal choice.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jul 08, 2006 6:20 am) Can you or anyone else explain this? Is there more wear-and-tear on the gasoline engine of a Prius because it starts and stops so many more times than an ICE? A friend of mine presented me with that argument and I couldn't help but scratch my head and tell him I really didn't know. He also said that, with time, that gas engine would become noisier and the regular starting and stopping would become far more noticeable than when the car is new. Should I give this friend credibility, or is he so far from reality?
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Replying to: Canc (Jul 08, 2006 8:24 am) In over 10 yrs on the road and with 500,000 Prius' in service few if any owners have mentioned anything about a rough performance from the ICE. It is a Toyota engine so it is one of the most durable and long-lasting ones on the road. Typically this 1.5L ICE can be expected to last well into the 250K mi range with proper care. |
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Replying to: Canc (Jul 08, 2006 8:24 am) Maybe the starter on the Prius will get more wear, but isn't the Prius' starter a different design than on most cars? |
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Replying to: Canc (Jul 08, 2006 8:24 am) Most wear in an engine occurs at starting, so it could be that the ICE in an HSD vehicle might last longer than the ICE in a regular vehicle because it does not actually produce power until it is well lubricated.
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