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... the speedo passed over 20000 in just under 7 mo's. 4th free oil change coming up tomorrow. I'm curious about the tires since these OEM Integrity's are normally reported to be mediocre at best and I do use Michelins whenever I put them on myself. Will I reach 40K with baldies or maybe even 60K? No issues at all as yet. I'm 50/50 with investing in the 7/100 VSA insurance policy before the 36000 limit comes up in Dec. Fuel usage is now consistently at about 1.96 gpc ( 51 mpg ) since the weather warmed. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 23, 2006 5:16 pm) P.S. I was impressed with Toyota's SCION X..clever unit. Very smart & practical.
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Replying to: railroadjames (Jun 23, 2006 6:54 pm) Package #1 Prius? You musta got the only one. I got my Package #4 at $450 over invoice as a close out employee price and it was ~$23800 The 'base' TCH is just under $27000.. the max price on the TCH is $30600 with everything on it, including Navi, leather, etc. |
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Replying to: railroadjames (Jun 23, 2006 6:54 pm) My trusty GMC Sierra hybrid gets all the miles except to church when we pull the Lexus out of the garage. I sold the Passat diesel. I had mixed emotions as I liked the mileage and it was fun to drive. It was just too tempting to try and make money on a year old car. So now I am getting 15 miles to the gallon on the truck. I like it though. Very quiet and it has XM radio with a fancy Bose system. I will drive it until a midsized diesel truck or SUV comes along. I think you did hit it lucky with your Prius. Toyota is keeping them out like a carrot on the end of a stick. If you have a product that people want and won't settle for anything else you can get away with that. |
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...and the main reason I went for the Prius and not the Camry, is that the Camry hybrid has been seriously compromised in the cargo area. The trunk has less than 11 cubic feet of usable space because of the battery installation. By contrast, the Prius has over 16 cubes, plus the underfloor storage, plus the hatch. The Camry Hybrid is the better drive, but I had no trouble making the choice for the Prius. And no regrets after 4 months and 4k miles, including a couple of long trips. I did dump the Badyear tires in favor of Costco Michelin Xs - better in every way.
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Replying to: jrct9454 (Jun 25, 2006 4:12 am) Just to clarify, the 16 Cu ft includes the hatch area, you were referring to the advantage of having a hatch instead of a sedan, correct? Your statement would seem to indicate that the Prius has 16 cu ft without using the hatch area, which is not correct.
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Replying to: stevedebi (Jun 25, 2006 3:37 pm) I chose the Prius over the Camry hybrid because it has 16 cubic feet of cargo space, vs less than 11 for the Camry. It ALSO has a hatchback, which is superior for my purposes to a conventional trunk opening. OK? What you get in a Prius is real room for 4 adults [great back seat legroom], plus real cargo space, plus easy access to same, in a package that takes up about the same space on the road as a Corolla. Plus 40-45 mpg driven like any other car, which is the way I drive it. The Camry is the better driver - no question about that. But we take too much stuff on a long trip to fit in a Camry hybrid - and the hatch has already paid off several times by swallowing stuff that simply wouldn't fit in a conventional trunk, no matter how large [like the flat panel TV that we brought home recently]. |
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According to articles in the NY Times, hybrids that use stored hydralic pressure instead of electricity are being tested. They are currenly being used in heavy vehicles like busses and garbage trucks, but the technology is said to be applicable to passanger cars. The advantage? They cost far less. Whereas an electric hybrid owner is unlikely to ever recoup the additional cost of the hybrid drive, these new hyydralic hybrids are said to be far more economic. Wouldnt that be a kick in the balls for Toyota to have invested all that money in electric hybrid drive, only to have it become completely commercially obsolete? And think of all those electric hybrid owners stuck with obsolete technology unable to recover the money they gave to Toyota instead of Exxon.
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Jul 03, 2006 2:13 am) The first part of your statement is false. The second part remains to be seen. I wouldn't be worried about Toyota. The investment is likely to have been paid off already with over 500,000 vehicles on the road. How much could the development costs have been, $1Billion? ( highly unlikely ). Your concern for Toyota's well being is noted though. To your last statement I see that you find it acceptable to pay extra money to Big Oil and the MidEastern countries like Iran, S Arabia rather to an auto employing US citizens which is one of our allies. The government ( unofficially ) is perusing all your telephone records as of your last statement. 
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