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You are in the Toyota Prius
What is this discussion about?
Toyota Prius, Hybrid Cars
#4485 of 7508 Re: H'mmm Sell more Cars - Future Prius [john1701a #3128]
Jun 03, 2004 (9:01 am)
No John, I was being very clear I am not talking about other cars i nthe Toyota line, I am talking about the Prius. That is not misleading. To refresh your memory the subject of this thread is the Prius 2004+ The + means the years following 2004, such as 2005, 2006, 2007, etc.
I am talking about different models of the Prius, not a hybrid Highlander or hybrid Camry or hybrid Corolloa or Hybrid Avalon or hybrid Lexus RX400h. Again, let me be very clear, I was talking about future Prius. I am not sure how you managed to misinterpret that but you did, sorry.
#4486 of 7508 Re: Midcow wants a TDI [djasonw #3130]
Jun 03, 2004 (9:11 am)
First, I want is a manual transmission 5-speed or prefereably six speed.
The second thing I want is better miles per gallon
What I don't want is to lose handling braking and performance.
The TDI only loses performance. However, that is a big loss and becuase of it I haven't bought one.
I analyze the hype rather than buy it. And there is a lot of hype on this board especially from the lovers, greeners and no-lifers .
Actually ,the upcoming Accord Hybrid would better fit my profile, assuming you can obtain it with a manual transmission.
P.S. - Is NY really inhabitable?
#4488 of 7508 Re: [midnightcowboy #3120]
Jun 03, 2004 (9:26 am)
"What I don't understand is why Prius owners continue to say their cars are not slow when it has been proven with objective facts ad infinitum that they are."
It's really not that hard to understand. It's all subjective. If a 911 Carrera Turbo guy tells me that my '01 STS was slow I'd say "it was not slow...!" even though, from his perspective he is correct.
Why do you have such a hard time understanding that people come with different views of what is important. They also come with different views of what "fast", "luxurious", "necessary", "exciting" is.
Now I've only driven the Prius once and don't own one (yet) but here is what I thought about it.
"Fast" - I judge this as off-the-line "get up and go" - I felt it WAS fast, in the sense that I was not expecting it to be so "peppy". Now, if I was comparing it to my Tahoe, RX330, or STS I'd definitely say it wasn't as fast as those, yet I'd be hard pressed to say it was "slow".
"Luxurious" - I was quite impressed with the level of luxury that is available in the car.
"Necessary" - This is a tough one. I'm certainly not a "greenie" but as an accountant I can appreciate the need for each of us to conserve our resources and save money on gas.
"Excitement" - Ok, I'm a luxury boat kind of guy instead of a sports car guy but didn't find a lack of excitement in the handling of the Prius. It was adequate and comfortable. NOW on the other hand, I was extremely EXCITED to be driving it. The whole experience was exciting.
So, I know we've beat this dead horse but I just don't understand why you are being so unreasonable. Is it ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL for people you don't know to acknowledge the facts as you present them? If so, why?
#4489 of 7508 Re: Midcow wants a TDI [midnightcowboy #3132]
Jun 03, 2004 (9:26 am)
Odd... you keep harping on 0-60 but the TDI is no sprinter but it holds its own. The mere fact that you would even consider it, makes your argument against the Prius ridiculous and without foundation.
#4491 of 7508 Re: H'mmm Sell more Cars - Future Prius [midnightcowboy #3131]
Jun 03, 2004 (9:28 am)
> I am talking about different models of the Prius
Prius is already a specialized model, just like Solara.
What you are suggesting would be like making different versions of Solara. That just doesn't make any sense. It would be eliminating the very aspect that makes it unique.
Hybrids of Camry, Corolla, Solara, Matrix, Spyder, etc. will provide that variety you eluded to, not Prius.
#4493 of 7508 Re: Midcow wants a TDI [midnightcowboy #3132]
Jun 03, 2004 (10:09 am)
> The TDI only loses performance.
"performance" is both vague & misleading, per the definition:
- The act of performing or the state of being performed.
- The way in which someone or something functions
I think he actually means "acceleration".
#4494 of 7508 Re: H'mmm Sell more Cars - Future Prius [john1701a #3137]
Jun 03, 2004 (10:25 am)
According to Edmunds Solara is offered in the following 2 -door coupe models:
SLE V6 convertable 3.3L auto
SE V6 convertable 3.3L auto
SE I4 coupe 2.4L man
SE I4 coupe 2.4L auto
SE Sport I4 Coupe 2.4L man
SE Sport I4 Coupe 2.4L auto
SE Sport V6 Coupe 3.3L auto
SE V6 Coupe 3.3L auto
SLE V6 Coupe 3.3L auto
That is 10 models.
Now currently on the Prius:
4Dr Hatchback I4 1.5L CVT
That is if, I counted correctly, only one(1) model.
What I am suggesting is that maybe they offer a sport model and maybe they offer an optional engine, i.e. performance model and maybe they offer a convertable model.