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Toyota Prius, Hybrid Cars
#3320 of 7508 washington Post article on Prius
Dec 28, 2003 (8:36 am)
excellent article on 2004 prius and waitlist in DC area, some paragraphs on future trends in US hybrid vehicles. Excerpt:
U.S. Carmakers Slow To Join Hybrid Parade
Detroit to Focus on Trucks First
By Greg Schneider
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, December 27, 2003; Page E01
You can test-drive a 2004 Prius at Alexandria Toyota, but if you buy one you can't take it home. The waiting list stretches at least to April. "I didn't expect this much interest," said sales manager Mike Baird, who has 65 Priuses on back order.
The gasoline-electric hybrid car that started as a fad for environmentalists has become a full-fledged phenomenon. It is Motor Trend magazine's "car of the year" and one of the fastest-selling vehicles in the nation.
Dec 28, 2003 (12:00 pm)
Styling is a very subjective thing... but ...
The Prius has a look that you either love or hate.
Personally, I find it as one of the least attractive vehicles of all time (it is right next to Pontiac Aztec on my list list of most extreme styling boredom and ugly-ness)
Darn-it, I was really looking forward to a hybrid vehicle and the Prius ain't it ! (and I always have a sweet spot for Toyota quality).
Hopefully by next year the Toyota designers might get a couple of lessons from the Chrysler/Mazda/Ford design teams and see how it is done. (Styling has always been my pet-peeve with Toyota vehicles)
Sorry about the rant but this is trully how I feel (this is not meant as a flamebait. I am hoping someone from Toyota looks at these posts)
#3322 of 7508 Re Prius Styling
Dec 28, 2003 (12:39 pm)
I don't know if someone from Toyota looks at these posts, but I'll bet they look at the recent reviews from Motor Trend, Car and Driver, and even Edmunds.com which all had positive things to say about the Prius' styling. As you said, "styling is a very subjective thing", so it's understandable that some people won't like a car that has unconventional styling like the Prius. One thing to bear in mind is that one of Toyota's main design goals for the Prius was fuel efficiency, which meant they wanted as slippery a shape as possible while maximizing interior space, minimizing weight, and incorporating a hatchback. I expect that Toyota also wanted the car to look unconventional and futuristic. So what Toyota came up with is necessarily a compromise, but I think they did a great job given the design parameters. (Unlike the Aztec, which had no such design issues yet GM made it look incredibly ugly anyway.)
Personally I hope that if Toyota steals styling ideas from Chrysler, Ford, or Mazda, it steals the most from Mazda.
#3323 of 7508 In spite of the syling...I am still smiling!
Dec 28, 2003 (1:06 pm)
I buy a vehicle to get me from point A to point B as economic as possible yet still enjoy some amenities. The Prius does all this for me and more...so, I am smiling.
I think the American public has, via TV and other advertising methods, been "brainwashed" on the need for "styling" when selecting an automobile. Most of us also have been brainwashed that we all need an SUV. Why my next door neighbor needs a 4-wheel drive Explorer to go back and forth to the shopping mall is beyond me. He is already complaining about how much he spends on gasoline.
My Prius does everything I want and expect, so I repeat...In spite of the styling...I am still smiling!
Dec 28, 2003 (2:22 pm)
I guess the styling is so bad which is why there are waiting lists of up to six months to buy the ugliest car on the block.
Dec 28, 2003 (4:00 pm)
What I find extremely entertaining is how insincere human nature is. People say "Wow!" when they see a style at an autoshow. Then they later say "Ick!" to the same thing years later at a showroom.
The desire for something that stands out in the crowd is what drives that.
For awhile, the fierce rigid look was all the rage in SUV styling. Now the appealing look is the sleek aerodynamic flow. The primary reason for this is the market saturation of te old style. It's everywhere. So the different look is a welcome change now.
And lucky for Prius, aerodynamic appeal offers more than just a style benefit. There is a MPG benefit too. So it only makes sense that other vehicles will begin to look like Prius too. And despite the distasteful comments, many are purchased anyway.
In other words, be careful what you label as "ugly" since you very well could end up driving something like that years from now.
#3326 of 7508 SUV 's are stylish??
Dec 28, 2003 (4:29 pm)
And, pray tell, what is so stylish about a box on wheels? Aeodynamics, I won't even talk about. Yes, the Prius is odd-looking in pics and then you seee it for real and it actually looks quite nice!
#3327 of 7508 Ford Probe...
Dec 28, 2003 (8:20 pm)
Is my idea of what the Prius should look like.
#3328 of 7508 Gray vs. Tan Interior
Dec 29, 2003 (6:16 am)
Just my two cents. I was originally interested in the Silver/Grey color combination until I saw one in person. Obviously this is subjective but the silver just wasn't what I wanted and the gray interior was MUCH lighter than I thought from the marketing materials (my own perceptive error). I was interested in the gray for hiding soil, etc. but I just didn't see a significant difference between the two interior colors in that respect.
I decided on the Driftwood Pearl / Tan combination just because I felt it was a better color combination / coordination with no better or worse visibility of soil.
I was looking over the cleaning information that came with the car and it looks like the interiors are fairly easy to clean with a rapid (within 30 mins.) response to spills being key. It suggest simply water and/or lemon juice for most spills and stains.
Dec 29, 2003 (7:56 am)
Am I the only one on this forum who has experienced the sudden shutdown of ICE and appearance of many warning lights on dash?
Because everyone does not read every post, I'll be asking every few pages until I get responses or perceive that none will be forthcoming.
This problem is potentially life-threatening. I would like to collect more information from those who also have experienced the same problem.