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Toyota Prius, Hybrid Cars
Oct 23, 2003 (9:19 am)
on the 2001-2003 US Prius, the first 5 regularly
scheduled maintenance visits (to 3yr/37500mi at
6mo/7500mi intervals) were provided for free by
Toyota. They are listed in the *Prius* Passport to
Performance (scheduled maintenance guide).
The free maintenances have been discontinued for
the 2004 Prius.
Toyota is still providing in the US 3yr/36,000mi of
Toyota Roadside Assistance with all Prius.
of course, individual dealers are free to "throw in"
free maintenances as they feel fit, but it's a dealer
thing, no longer from Toyota. (but 2001-2003 Prius'
free maintenances are good at any Toyota dealer still)
If you are so inclined, Toyota does offer a prepaid
maintenance plan. MSRP is listed on the toyotafinancial.com
Oct 23, 2003 (9:25 am)
not all navigation systems are built alike.
This is not OnStar or Guidepoint. there is no
monthly fees. The map and POI data is stored on a DVD.
It's up to you if you wish to buy the updated DVD
every few years.
The Toyota unit is built by Denso. See the classic
Prius or some of the Lexus models for an example
of what's included.
Do note that the Navigation system option in the
2004 includes the voice-command features (controls
audio and climate control, besides navigation), and
also the Bluetooth functionality (can connect a
phone and addressbook via Bluetooth and make calls
and such hands-free).
#2160 of 7508 Minnesota Gathering
Oct 23, 2003 (11:12 am)
I pick up my 2004 in just 1 hour. It's time to begin swamping stories offline. Here's the first gathering details (so stay tuned for a report after about the comments people attending made):
CARIBOU COFFEE in WOODBURY at 5:30 this SATURDAY, Oct 25.
Close to the corner of Valley Creek Road (2 miles east of 494) and
Radio Drive (2 miles south of 94), it's definitely an easy location
to drive to and find.
It's quite big inside, there's outside seating and it's connected
to a Bruegger's Bagel (which also just happens to have a lot of
The location is in the corner of the City Centre Plaza, which means
there are always a bunch of emtpy parking spots available. That
makes finding us rather easy and provides a great photo opportunity.
Lastly, since it's so close to a number of major attractions in the
city. The die-hard gatherers that just don't want to part quickly
can stroll over to a place to dine afterward.
#2161 of 7508 Navigation Question
Oct 23, 2003 (5:22 pm)
During the test drive we entered our home address in the Nav system -- easy enough -- however, the readout indicted the dealership was 61 miles from our home and the drive would be over an hour. However, the dealer is an easy 20 minute drive from our home and a lot closer than 61 miles.The map route looked correct. We and the salesman gave up on it. Our question: are there frequent discrepancies in the system? Was it just that we were doing something incorrectly? Is the system user friendly to learn and are the routes generally accurate, appropriate, and do they include less traveled roads? Thanks for any comments!
Oct 23, 2003 (5:30 pm)
Drove one today. Had package 8 which included the nav system. Outside temp was 91 and the A/C had no problem keeping the car cool even with the fan speed set on low speed. The Nav system is easy to use, but did not have the yellow pages telephone number data base like my MDX has. Otherwise the system is similar in ease of use and utility.
With three aboard, driven in stop and go traffic, the gasoline engine ran most of the time. It seemed as if more than 35 required gasoline power, but steady 30 or so did not.
Car doesn't feel peppy at all, yet had no trouble keeping up with traffic. I suspect it is quicker than it feels. No wind noise at all up to 65 mph.
More knee room in the back seat than my MDX or Cruiser. Noticed that the $184 carpeted floor mats were on all four cars, so it appears that these are a mandatory option.
Dealer taking orders for February delivery. BTW, the big dealer in town claims he will not be getting a "demo" vehicle. He took his first one and put it in his rental fleet. Said I could rent one for a day if I wanted a test drive.
#2163 of 7508 not quite yellow pages... and voice commands
Oct 24, 2003 (6:08 am)
but the Prius' navigation system does have POIs
(Points of Interest), which is name, address, and
phone number, for restaurants, gas stations, hotels,
Toyota dealerships, hospitals, police stations,
public buildings, malls/drug stores, airports and
bus terminals, movie theaters and golf courses, ATMs, and...
Here you can see the voice commands listed in the
online Help screen. POIs are listed on screen 14
#2164 of 7508 Toyota Dealers Set Pkgs - No ABS on Matrix XR in New England Either
Oct 24, 2003 (11:53 am)
It's my understanding that the lovely, local Toyota dealerships are the folks who keep safety items out of consumers hands on purpose or make them ridiculously expensive by bundling with items of high cost.
I am just waiting for some litigation to happen when it's clear that the set of big dealerships here in New England (such as Boch, Chambers, etc.) have kept consumers from getting safety options available elsewhere.
For example he Matrix Base and XR 2WD cannot be had with ABS here in New Englad ( it's standard on 4WD so the dealers can't delete it from orders from the factory). You have to order it which generally means finding one somewhere else....
So don't be surprised that the Prius will come with load ups you have to pay for just to be able buy the a safety option like VSC. To get VSC here in New England you have to buy the $5K option with Nav, duh?
My advice is shop around. Dealers from Northern Va to Baltimore seem to have sensible option pkgs applicable to the Northeast. Same for a couple of St. Louis ones.
The ones down South are a different story. Distribution there is dominated large regional distributors that tell the dealers what they can have and add options in 'port'. Gulf States are run by Gulf States Toyota and the Southeast by SET. SET frequently REALLY loads cars up with the non-essentials, like the 1970's fabric protection scams for $599 and 'paint protection', add Enkei wheels for 1700 clams and so on. If the Prius gets popular, the stickers there might end up looking like dealer Christmas trees.
Good luck shopping wherever you are...
Oct 24, 2003 (12:49 pm)
How does Prius start in cold weather--25 degrees or below--thx for the info? rds
#2167 of 7508 Dealer Drills Holes in the 04 Prius:
Oct 24, 2003 (4:20 pm)
Want to inform all you Prius future owners that when your car arrives at the dealer-ship. The Toyota empolyees who set up and clean the cars for delivery will, DRILL HOLES IN THE FRONT BUMPER TO MOUNT THE FRONT LICENSE PLATE.
This is ware you as new owners need to say pay attention, because when the front bumper is drilled the clear coat color coat paint will "CRACK" all around the drilled hole to mount the license plate bracket.
When I pulled off the front license bracket I found that where the dealer had drilled to mount my license bracket there were cracks in the paint. This is late Friday evening and the dealer is closed but I will be on his door step early Monday morning to complain about this type of poor workman-ship on the part of the dealer-
So when the clear coat peals in a year or so who will pay the bill for re painting?
Over all the car is great and one I plan to keep for some time to come, Salsa Red Pearl with Pkg. # 3 I was the first in the north metro area to receive a 04 Prius (Minneapolis) it was delivered on October 15 the first day of the release.