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Toyota Prius, Hybrid Cars
Sep 10, 2003 (6:22 am)
Last I've heard Toyota Canada (different entity
than the Toyota for the mainland USA) doesn't
really know much on the 2004 Prius, beyond what's
on the toyota.ca website. (You may have to dig
through the press releases there to find info...)
Some dealers seem to have a clue, though, but
they're hard to find. Where in Canada are you
Last I've heard the dealers will only get much of
their 2004 Prius information about 2 weeks before
the car arrives in Canada (which looks to be demos
in the mid-October timeframe). Although some
dealers do have pricing and option (only 1 Prius
in Canada, no options, doesn't come with navigation)
information, and that has been posted on some
internet sites. (Some people are thinking of importing a US 2004...)
From what I've heard, sales of the current 2001-2003
Prius in Canada has been about 1/10 of the sales
in the US.
Sep 10, 2003 (6:34 am)
either way, you're still getting a low volume car.
(a little over 20,000 Prius were sold in the US in calendar
year 2002, while news reports put the Mini at around
The Prius would have far better MPG and lower
smog-forming emissions than the Mini during your
Not having driven a Mini or a 2004 Prius (the 2004
isn't out in the US yet), I can't say what would
be better for you, or what the handling is like.
If you can wait until Oct./Nov. when dealers start
getting 2004 Prius for demo vehicles, I'd suggest
that you do a test-drive of the 2004 and also a
test drive of a Mini somewhere, and see how each
feels to you. How do you fit, how's your sight
lines, is it easy to handle for you, etc.
I do know that when I took a test drive of a 2001
Prius way back when (Sept. 2000, IIRC), it was a
surprisingly fun car to drive. Since I've had my
2001 Prius, the fun hasn't worn off. I'd suspect
that the improved 2004 Prius would still have the
neat fun factor.
Don't forget, the Prius does have the fun "stealth"
(engine shuts off, quiet, no vibration, driving on
electric) driving aspects. takes a bit of stress
out of a backed-up stop'n'go traffic situation.
some owners call it "Zen mode" driving.
Sep 10, 2003 (6:46 am)
The Mini is really fun to drive. What turned me off to it was reading about the maintenance problems the current model is having. Look at what Edmunds shows should be expected maintenance costs as part of your research. I bought the Turbo Beetle when it first came out and its was a "hot" car. I cannot give it away today.
Sep 10, 2003 (10:17 am)
Thank you all for the input...I did a test drive of a Cooper S a few days ago. It was a heck of alot of fun to drive, especially with the supercharged engine. I guess I will have to wait until the local Toyota dealer start stocking the '04 Prius so I can do a test drive. Making the decision for either car is still pretty hard. The Prius is a more responsible choice but the Cooper S is not a gas guzzling SUV either...so...maybe I will have an epiphany soon...
Sep 10, 2003 (12:04 pm)
I see from the Toyota website on the '04 Prius which has 16.1 cu.ft. of cargo volume. The Mini on the other hand has 23.7 cu.ft. per the Mini brochure. I was surprised. I thought that the Prius would have a larger cargo volume. Am I right on this?
Sep 10, 2003 (12:10 pm)
Mini has only 5.3 cu ft of luggage capacity, only if you fold the rear seat you get that 23.7 cu ft.
In Prius-2004, it is 16.1 cu ft, but if you fold the rear seat, it should more than double.
Vehicles like Mini, Beetle, Golf are lovable, but they dont match Prius-2004 in comfort, utility, mileage, technology, etc.
#1605 of 7508 Are either one good in the snow?
Sep 10, 2003 (12:20 pm)
I currently own a Subaru Outback that's getting a bit on in miles, and am considering a new car soon - possibly a Prius, but love that MINI parking ability in Manhattan! The RAV4 is another consideration thanks to all that I've read on these boards...
But what about the Prius, or the MINI, in the snow? How do they go when it really starts to come down and stick?
#1606 of 7508 jeep2jetta
Sep 10, 2003 (12:31 pm)
You said something a few posts back that made me curious, and may even help you decide which car to buy. You said that the Prius (if you bought it) would by your daily driver, but the Mini wouldn't. Why?
Sep 10, 2003 (1:32 pm)
bhill2...yes, I did mentioned that. My current daily driver is a '92 Grand Voyager. Not very dependable. I keep feeding it cash to keep it going. It's nice and roomy when it runs. I will be happy to get rid of it when I get the Prius or Mini. I do have a second car that is currently garaged most of the time. It is a '94 MR2 with 54k miles on it...web site... http://home1.gte.net/res03p10/homepage/index.htm It is a very dependable car and I love it. If I get the Mini, it will become the garage car and the MR2 will become the daily driver. My point is to have a second car that is in top condition for a backup vehicle. Sorry for the long explanation...heck...since I've been on this board, I am beginning to lean toward the Prius because I currently own a Toyota.