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Toyota Prius, Hybrid Cars
Sep 06, 2003 (8:55 pm)
last I read these 2 features were only available
in the home market (Japan), and maybe Europe.
EV Button would allow you to tell the car that you're
going a short distance, don't bother turning on the
engine, such as you're just parking the car in the
garage at night and don't wish to wake anyone...
(The Prius otherwise will go into EV whenever it
feels like it, based on power demand and emissions...)
The self-park feature that has been getting a lot
of press lately, would let the car reverse and
park itself (say, parallel park, like in the demo
footage available), while you set the marker points
from the rear-camera video footage, and you also
brake the car (you don't have to steer).
For all the press, it'd be nice if it was available
here in the US, but... Maybe later? (Sort of like
getting cruise control as an option on the 2002
Prius, as it wasn't available in the US on 2001s...
(but you can retrofit cruise to a 2001 - the
Toyota kit works great.))
Sep 06, 2003 (9:02 pm)
You can go to your dealer and "pre-order" a 2004.
Just make sure that IF you're asked for a deposit,
that it is refundable.
Dealers that have some clue about the 2004, are
taking orders. Some are just for right of first
refusal, while others are trying to order through
their region the specific color/option package
that you're looking for.
Call around. If the salesperson that you're talking
to isn't Prius-savvy, try another salesperson, or
go to another dealership. Usually the internet or
fleet or hybrid specialist is the person most likely
to know about what's going on with the 2004s.
You'll probably have better luck if you know that
your local dealership is Prius-certified (has a
Prius-trained mechanic on staff). There's a search
option on the Toyota dealer locator.
#1579 of 7508 Self-park and Liability Issues
Sep 07, 2003 (4:30 am)
This may not be a concern in Japan, but I'm sure it is a major concern with offering it in here in the U.S.
Unlike cruise control where the operator has the expectation of needing to override the control by tapping the brakes, and still needs to steer, this auto-park feature's expectations is no human intervention.
So say as the Prius is self-parking it has an accident. An example might be a child running from the side behind the car. Or one of the sensors is covered with snow or mud, or has an intermittent electrical problem. Is Toyota responsible or the driver, who really isn't driving?
I could see that being a very messy issue in the U.S.
#1580 of 7508 Re: Self-park and Liability Issues
Sep 07, 2003 (5:22 am)
It seems fairly easy to predict the behavior...
> override the control by tapping the brakes
That would stop the parking attempt too.
> sensors is covered with snow or mud
A quick diagnostic check before beginning would sense that problem and prevent the option from even being used.
> child running from the side behind the car
Any movement detected in the danger area would cause an immediate abort, which should result in a virtually instant stop since movement is so slow anyway.
> Is Toyota responsible or the driver
The driver... just like with the Navigation system, you'd have to press "yes" to accept the liability before the system is allowed to proceed.
Sep 07, 2003 (5:28 am)
> You can go to your dealer and "pre-order" a 2004.
I'd call that a "regular" order, since the package options are completely different now from those that were available before July 21.
And by the way, when you go to the dealer, ask for the special-effect handout on the Electrochromic mirror. It's one of those plastic-coated sheets that changes images when you move it back & forth. On the back you'll see that it is available for all of Toyota's vehicles in 2004. Having a mirror that dims automatically for you is really handy.
Sep 07, 2003 (6:54 am)
Has anyone ordered a Prius in Super White and does anyone know whether one interior color will be built more than the other? It looks like th Millenium Silver and the Gray interior are going to be the most produced color, closely followed by Desert Mist/Sand.
Sep 07, 2003 (7:24 am)
For those who have ordered a 04 Prius, what did the dealer tell you the time of arrival would be for the car? I know that the Pioneer models will be arriving in October.
#1585 of 7508 Hybrid Game...
Sep 07, 2003 (1:50 pm)
Sep 07, 2003 (2:12 pm)
Wow! That game is fun! I've never driven a hybrid, but I'd really like to drive with the way the different modes (stealth, mix, all gas) work.