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Toyota Prius, Hybrid Cars
Aug 14, 2003 (8:10 am)
No option yet for leather from Toyota.
Ask your dealer for their preferred aftermarket
shop, or see if there's a ClassicSoftTrim near you.
Some owners of the 2001-2003 classic Prius have
had leather installed on their Prius.
The side air bags on the 2002-2003 Prius were located
in the front seats, so care had to be taken to
replace the seat covers with leather (needs special
break-away fabric/threads to allow the side air
bags to deploy correctly). I don't know where the
side air bags are located in the 2004 Prius.
However, I still can't understand why someone would
want to install leather seats, ESPECIALLY in a low
pollution / high MPG vehicle like the Prius. (I've
had leather seats in a previous vehicle - freezing
in winter, scalding in summer, difficult to maintain
(keep clean and keep from cracking), and everything
slides around on them. I'll take cloth seats
Add to that that you'll be tossing away some
perfectly good cloth seat covers to install the
leather seats... Besides the ethical dilema that
an animal had to die so you have something to sit
on, there's also the environmental impact of raising
that animal (large acreage of land needed to feed
the animal, and the pesticides and other farm runoff
associated with industrial farming) vs. just the
land needed to create the cloth, and also the tanning
industry is not known for being very environmentally
friendly with all the heavy metals used in the tanning
process and factory waste...
#1454 of 7508 B to the right
Aug 14, 2003 (9:19 am)
Do any current Prius owners use the "B" gear regularly for engine braking? Does it engage smoothly? Why is it next to neutral and not next to drive?
Aug 14, 2003 (9:21 am)
Where is the Prius built?
Aug 14, 2003 (9:53 am)
The Prius is solely built in Japan.
Aug 14, 2003 (10:00 am)
2001-2003 Prius gear layout is PRNDB, Park, Reverse,
Neutral, Drive, (engine) Braking.
Essentially it's like a Low gear on a traditional
automatic transmission - not used much unless you
drive on a steep hill/mountain and would overheat
your brakes otherwise.
With the exception of having to press the gear
shift button to go from Drive to B on my current
Prius, I don't really notice anything odd when
changing from D to B, or B to D (no button press needed).
<shrug> The engine just spins up and creats a bit
more drag, so you don't coast as well. Engine
coming on/off is quite seamless normally and using
B is no different.
Aug 14, 2003 (10:47 am)
How much fuel does it take to ship a car from overseas?
Aug 14, 2003 (11:11 am)
ask someone who's in the shipping industry, or
in the car industry. That's certainly not me.
since the vast majority of the Prius' parts are
made in Japan, it makes sense that it is assembled
in Japan. There's just one production line for
all the Prius that are shipped worldwide, since
it's such a low-volume car (in comparison to something
like a Corolla or a Camry).
Aug 14, 2003 (12:33 pm)
The amount of fuel a large car transport would use, plus the large amount of emissions during transport, should be something that concerns you. The amount of fuel used in transport is more than could ever be made up during the life of the car, even if it is 15mpg more efficient than a car that does not have to be shipped.
In addition, many many animals die during the automated field harvesting of cotton, soybeans, and the like, the pesticides and other farm runoff associated with this sort of farming is also a concern. And don't forget, the land used for planting is taken from animals, which are forced to move or die. Not ordering leather does not exempt you from environmental impact.
If you must drive, and want to minimize your impact on the natural world, you are better off buying a slightly less fuel efficient car that is produced closer to you (this has nothing to do with American/Japanese/European).
Aug 14, 2003 (12:45 pm)
I'd be interested to see the research:
"If you must drive, and want to minimize your impact on the natural world, you are better off buying a slightly less fuel efficient car that is produced closer to you (this has nothing to do with American/Japanese/European)."
Are you sure about that? Cars arent shipped one by one, they are shipped by the thousands. I'm just skeptical and would like to see evidence.
#1462 of 7508 Shipping distance
Aug 14, 2003 (12:52 pm)
The distance between Japan and USA may be around
12,000 km (7,000 miles). The ships being huge will not consume much fuel.
For ex - if Prius takes 530 liters (140 gallons) of fuel to travel that distance, then by ship, it should hardly take 40 liters (10 gallons).