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Toyota Prius, Hybrid Cars
#1420 of 7508 Re: how do I order?
Aug 05, 2003 (8:12 pm)
The early order opportunity has expired (and it was only available for those that went through the same to purchase a 2001 or 2002 Prius).
Now you just go to a dealer directly and place an order. There are twice as many (6) option packages available now too.
> same price
Toyota probably won't be forcing price limits this time around. Dealers will have the freedom to price as they see fit. But I don't expect to see that happening until they can be purchased off the lot rather than ordered. (My local dealer always slashed a few hundred bucks off the sticker price.)
> by Oct or Nov.?
Who knows. Lots of orders have already been placed. (I'm going nuts already waiting for mine, even though I have a 2001 now that has recently been delivering 50 MPG.)
#1421 of 7508 100 Yard Dash
Aug 05, 2003 (9:46 pm)
Is it just me, or does the dashboard on the new Prius look like it extends for miles? I realize it's difficult to say without sitting in one, but from some of the views it reminds me of the Chevy Lumina van that had the same slanted front windshield resulting in an expansive dash and a feeling that you were sitting far back from the front of the car. Personally I prefer the feel of the Honda Civic which makes me feel like I'm sitting on the front bumper with a wide-open view of the road. One good thing I noticed is that the Toyota designers appear to have broken up the dash so it may not feel like it's one huge piece of continuous plastic stretching out before you.
Aug 06, 2003 (4:56 am)
If there is no price limit, will the dealers command 1000's of $
in premium. Prius-2004 compares with Camry in every aspect
while giving 55 mpg (23 km/l) which will save atleast 3k in gas bill.
Do you expect Honda to reduce the price of Civic Hybrid.
#1423 of 7508 The Prius Shifter
Aug 06, 2003 (6:15 am)
Well, the most intriguing part of the new Prius is the shifter. Supposedly a by-wire shifting mechanism. It sure looks very interesting in the pictures I hvae seen. I would be very interested in driving with one of these.
Any idea how they work in terms of responsiveness and time? I am thinking of buying a new Prius for my parents and I'm concerned about its function in cold weather. Does anybody have any good/bad experiences in cold conditions?
Aug 06, 2003 (9:25 am)
> I'm concerned about its function in cold weather
That is a non-issue.
My Prius has been through 3 very cold Winters in Minnesota now. -13F was the coldest I was able to document (with photos on my website). The engine fired up everytime, first try. And the heater really "cooks". Efficiency was a very pleasing 40 MPG too. Driving on snow & ice was no big deal at all. And with the new VSC option, it will handle even better. In other words, it outperformed traditional cars in every respect.
Aug 06, 2003 (11:47 am)
Sounds like Honda will have to reduce it's price on the Civic Hybrid. If it doesn't, Honda won't sell any Civic Hybrids, since the Prius is more advanced and is about the same price. ($20K)
Aug 06, 2003 (6:12 pm)
John, you mention there are 3 more options that where added to the original three. Can you share with us, potential '04 buyers, what they are. Any word on what accesories Toyota plans to come out for the new Prius.
Aug 06, 2003 (7:41 pm)
> Can you share with us, potential '04 buyers, what they are.
To document what the dealers have to offer, I created a webpage on my site. That shows you what's available, along with what I ordered.
I still don't think there's anything available from Toyota online other than the basics, just the stuff included standard and the base price.
Delivery isn't suppose to begin until mid-October, so don't expect much more than teaser stuff until then. Oh well. It's definitely worth waiting for.
What I'm yearning to find out is how much better the new design will perform in the winter. The new warming system for the emissions control should provide MPG boost. The electric A/C will be used by the defroster to remove humidity, so that will help with MPG a bit too. And of course, the propulsion system itself is more efficient. So... I could low 40's even in the dead of Minnesota winter. No other vehicle will be able to compete with that. Sweet!
Aug 07, 2003 (7:43 am)
With the back seats folded down, how much room is there length wise? Can 2 5'9" people be able to fully layout without folding their legs?
Aug 07, 2003 (7:45 am)
What would the best way for this new Prius to mount a bike rack? Does it have a hitch to support a hitch rack?