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Despite what the documentation says the car is now TMU...From a dealers standpoint a TMU car is like having a contagious rash...Its hard enough for us to sell a perfect car, forget one with an "odometer issue"...there arent many folks who will give the dealer the benefit of the doubt....unless there is a huge price savings over a car without any stories.
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Replying to: audia8q (Apr 09, 2007 7:39 am) speedo/odo clusters for the flashy white faced Caddy clusters. They have the vehicles existing odo reading programmed to the new cluster at a speedo shop or some say the GM dealer uses the Tech 2 machine to do it. It can be done on the GMs but unsure about others......... But then again I post about TMU and they think I am crazy! Then 6 months down the road some of them are posting about a "crooked" dealer trying to rip them off by either lowballing their trade or not wanting it because of the odo change or other screwy mods they did !
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Replying to: geo9 (Apr 09, 2007 8:19 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Apr 09, 2007 8:22 am) -mike |
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Replying to: paisan (Apr 08, 2007 7:09 pm) How can a car be branded TMU when there's a sticker on it that says the true mileage? If you're going to tell me that the dealer who put the sticker on now tells the owner that the sticker might be falsified, I'm going to fall down laughing and call a lawyer.
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GUYS....I hear ya about changing the tire size as well as lift kit mods on vehicles altering the speedo/odo readings and TMU. Most of the guys on the GM truck forums report that the speedo AND odos read lower with larger diameter tire/rim combos. But also there are other problems like SES and ABS lights aglowing and related issues................ Then the problems down the road with state inspections (like NY that fails your vehicle if ANY SES-ABS light is on) and emissions test at inspection time. Not to mention many dealers are getting gunshy of reprogramming new tire sizes or doing a CPS (crank position sensor) relearn (when the PCM is changed or "burned" for a performance tune) for a fee......... Prob. because of liability !!!!!!!!!! But yet again if the dealer sells/installs that mod then its usually a NO problem deal......... This applies to my GM experience with mods and dealers use of the Tech 2 machine.....YMMV !!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 09, 2007 10:05 am) Hold up there deputy dog.... The cars odometer never stops working while its in the shop. It breaks and the customer proceeds to drive around until they discover the odometer isnt working, then they drive to the dealership to get it fixed. meanwhile nobody knows how many miles it wasnt working or how many miles it was driven...Thus TMU. I bet the majority of folks would have no idea their odometer stopped working...its just not something that many folks monitor like the gas gauge. how trusting are you? This is car sales and not girl scout cookie sales.
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Replying to: geo9 (Apr 09, 2007 11:35 am) -mike
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Replying to: paisan (Apr 09, 2007 11:56 am) size trucks (not sure about the others). Some deal with the ABS sensor that imbedded in the front wheel hubs and the revolutions of the wheel don't jive with the parameters in the PCM or ABS computers ?????? Then it throws a ABS malfunction light and PCM code. But I am posting of NEW 04-07 GM full size trucks. GMs ABS system (and other brands that use it)can be a PIA and the brain is a issue that costs $1000 bucks when it fails (often!) But there are a few rebuilders out there that will take care of your failed unit for less than $200 bucks! (search fleabay for them) Check out gm-trucks.com fullsizechevy.com letstalksnow.com/forums What kills me is most of these guys don't care anyhoo! ABS unit failed (and when it does it makes all kinds of crazy noises) Pull the ABS fuse ignore the light! Larger tire size throws a SRS light......Ignore it and put a piece of black tape over it ! Gee ya mean the speedo/odo reads lower? Cool...........ignore it! Among other things.................LOL!!!!!!!!
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Replying to: geo9 (Apr 09, 2007 12:13 pm) -mike |
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