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Mileage Fraud!! Odometer was rolled back!!! What to do?

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#159 of 169 What do i do! :( by jo157739

Oct 27, 2011 (8:12 pm)

I bought a 1996 volkswagen passat from C&C auto sales 3/8/2010.
I just found out today from Carfax that my car's odometer was set back
from 101,520-25,017 (7/8/2003)
The guy who sold me the car never mentioned anything about that happening, or about there being a tittle brand.
This part is irrelevant to the odometer reading, just my story of the worst mistake i have ever made.
I bought the car 3/8/10, then it got stolen for six month's around the date 1/1/2011. i got it back about 10 months ago. And the car has been broke down since before it was stolen.
This was the first car i ever bought on my own, and i paid 3,000$ cash for.
I was just wondering what i need to do to get this resolved?

#160 of 169 Re: What do i do! :( [jo157739] by qbrozen

Oct 28, 2011 (6:42 am)

Replying to: jo157739 (Oct 27, 2011 8:12 pm)
There is some missing info here.
 
How many miles did you think it had when you purchased it?
 
If it was stolen and missing for 6 months, why didn't you get paid by the insurance company for it?
 
In the end, $3k cash is not very much. That's beater money. You are going to pay that for a decent looking/running car no matter what, so the odometer rollback is kind of irrelevant at this point.
 
That generation of volkswagen is notoriously unreliable anyway. Avoid them in the future.

#161 of 169 Re: What do i do! :( [jo157739] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Oct 28, 2011 (8:39 am)

Replying to: jo157739 (Oct 27, 2011 8:12 pm)
There's even MORE information missing--how can you not have known the title was 'branded" as salvage or rebuilt? Didn't you get a title? It's stamped right on it.
 
ANYWAY -- presuming that eventually this story will make sense, I can tell you that the clock starts ticking on a fraud case NOT when you bought the car, but when you first discover the fraud.
 
also keep in mind that fraud is not easy to prove, and also keep in mind that CARFAX can make mistakes.
 
I imagine you "got the car back" because you didn't have it insured for theft in the first place.
 
If I were you, I'd get some free legal advice from your city or county legal services, and if, upon their review, you have a case, then go to Small Claims with this against the dealer.
 
but you need to sort this story out--it's very confusing and doesn't add up.

#162 of 169 Re: What do i do! :( [Mr_Shiftright] by jproc

Oct 28, 2011 (1:52 pm)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 28, 2011 8:39 am)
Very confusing is an understatement.Car was stolen 1/1 /11 was missing for 6 months has had it back for another 10 since then???????.Thats 16 months from Jan 2011 which takes us to April-may of 2012?

#163 of 169 Re: What do i do! :( [jproc] by kyfdx HOST

Oct 29, 2011 (9:31 am)

Replying to: jproc (Oct 28, 2011 1:52 pm)
Hey! Don't mess up a good story with the facts..

#164 of 169 Mileage fraud! by kerndog

Sep 23, 2012 (9:55 pm)

Help! I bought a 04 f150 from a dealer in Michigan and was told the truck had a new motor in it and that is why the mileage on the truck was unknown. But they told me there was 43,000 miles on the body and less on the motor. I thought it was a decent deal and bought the truck. Six months later I go to trade it in at a different dealer and they pulled the carfax on it and showed me the mileage went from 181,000 miles after the first owner and then the second owner all of a sudden it has 43,000 miles. I am the third owner. So I went back to the dealer and talked to the manager and he said he cant do anything about it. He told me that a salesman simply wrote down the wrong mileage. What do I do? I payed 10,000 bucks for it and now its worth 2,000 bucks and I still owe $9,000 on it! What can I do???

#165 of 169 Re: Mileage fraud! [kerndog] by qbrozen

Sep 24, 2012 (7:48 am)

Replying to: kerndog (Sep 23, 2012 9:55 pm)
Well, honestly, I don't see the fraud here. They told you it was TMU (true mileage unknown), which comes with a title branded as such, which is why it is worth so little. Whatever mileage figures they threw at you after that mean absolutely nothing. TMU is TMU.

#166 of 169 Mileage fraud! by kerndog

Sep 24, 2012 (8:05 am)

So is there anything I can do about this? They didnt offer a carfax and didnt say that the odometer was rolled back. Isnt this still fraud?

#167 of 169 Re: Mileage fraud! [kerndog] by qbrozen

Sep 24, 2012 (8:20 am)

Replying to: kerndog (Sep 24, 2012 8:05 am)
Nobody has to offer a carfax, it is up to the buyer to request it or get one themselves.
 
I would be surprised if the odometer was actually "rolled back" as that is pretty damned difficult, if not impossible, on modern vehicles. In any case, stating it is TMU is all the disclosure I think they need to make.

#168 of 169 Re: Mileage fraud! [kerndog] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Sep 24, 2012 (8:28 am)

Replying to: kerndog (Sep 24, 2012 8:05 am)
CARFAX is often wrong---don't discount that possibility either.
 
Fraud is mighty difficult to prove---"misrepresentation' might be easier. I'd suggest you see a lawyer about this rather than get legal aid from here---there are too many variables, and we haven't seen the paperwork you signed either. If TMU is scrawled all over it, then you may have no recourse.

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