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Smart Shopper Mileage Fraud!! Odometer was rolled back!!! What to do?
152 messages, Last post on Oct 29, 2009 at 8:22 AM
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Replying to: isellhondas (Mar 04, 2009 6:12 am) there was never anything physically put on the car to indicate it as a TMU. looking at the carfax, i didn't see anything that would point to that either.
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Mar 04, 2009 3:50 pm) The sticker states the miles on the old odometer and the miles on the new. Still, a TMU car and still tainted merchandise. You did get lucky! |
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I am in the process of buying a 2008 Kia Optima. The odometer states that it has 202 miles on it, However the sales manager slipped up and said it was a demo, and thought it had a lot more, as a matter of fact he said he would give us a real good deal. After the paperwork the good deal works out to 21000 +, he said the rebate was taken by americredit and put over to me in a lower interest rate (17%) instead. I started checking things, tires are worn, yet rotors gleam and have crosshatching visible. The calipers look brand new, yet the brake pedal is worn, and best of all the engine air filter is brand new, yet the cabin air filter is filthy, and the ac smelled real bad (hence checking the filter) The new car smell is long gone, and they did a poor job detailing it. The other kicker is we had to sign an as is disclaimer, yet they are selling it to us as new. How do I check to find the actual mileage, and can i sue the pants off them if it has been tampered with? Any input would be appreciated Thanks
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Replying to: carpetguy (Apr 12, 2009 1:45 pm) Anyway, best thing to do if you are suspicious is to just walk away. There is no Kia shortage last time I looked. You can buy a 2009 Optima for this money anyway. Just take a walk on this whole deal.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 12, 2009 1:51 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (Apr 12, 2009 4:08 pm) 
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Replying to: carpetguy (Apr 12, 2009 1:45 pm) I am in a very simliar situation. A dealer is offering me a 2008 "NEW" vehicle that has 220 miles on the odometer. The CarFax report is showing that a few months ago it had 15,000 miles on it (from service done at that very dealership!). The salesman asserts that this IS and WILL BE SOLD TO ME as a "NEW" vehicle, and that the CarFax data is wrong. He said he will attempt to rectify this with them, but that could take months. How can I confirm, through visual inspection, whether the car has 15,000 miles on it. Since this is a big discrepancy in the mileage, I'm sure there are some things I can look for that will give me the answer. Tires, fluids, filters can all be changed, so that's not going to cut it. Thank you in advance !
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Replying to: solaraman2003 (Jun 04, 2009 12:25 pm) You could always try to run the VIN # through DMV. If they never registered it, that was a helluva demo car then. So the car has its window sticker, MSO, owner's books all wrapped up neatly, all that stuff?
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Replying to: solaraman2003 (Jun 04, 2009 12:25 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 04, 2009 12:43 pm) 2.Window sticker appears fully intact. I didn't examine it very very closely, but the salesman told me over the phone that it is completely intact, never removed. I can check that when i go there this week. 3. I didn't ask about the MSO. I'm not sure what that would tell me since I believe the originating dealer was Dealer 1 who sold it to Dealer 2. |
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