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Smart Shopper Mileage Fraud!! Odometer was rolled back!!! What to do?
152 messages, Last post on Oct 29, 2009 at 8:22 AM
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Replying to: geo9 (Apr 09, 2007 12:13 pm) The mileage is stored in the cluster memory not the PCM. There WAS a few posts on this and how to disconnect the odo on the GMT-800 trucks by simply unhooking a wire off the underhood bulkhead connector. Yet again other posts (also removed) of a 'puter head had a homebrew program in his laptop to simply plug in his laptop and alter odo readings with no trace in the cluster or PCM...................... I assume it CAN be done to ANY of these newer vehicles with a digital odo reading. The good old days of disassembling the dash and rolling back the mile scroll is almost long gone............ I guess the best way to protect yourself is Carfax, state inspection records, dealer warranty reports etc. But NO method is foolproof nowadaze !!!!!!!!!! 
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Many years ago the odometer on my one year old Dodge stopped working at 13K. It was fixed under warranty. The new unit was set at zero. The only difference was that the tenth mile number was red instead of black like the original. I sold the car years later with 120K actual miles (107K on the dial) for $350. I told the kid about the difference but he didn't care. My question: Did I commit a crime by not having a sticker on the door? I don't remember if there were mileage statements you had to sign way back then. Will the police, FBI, CIA and George Bush be coming after me now?
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Apr 09, 2007 12:35 pm) The men with the badges and guns want to talk to you and slip a nice pair of silver bracelets on your wrists and take you for a ride in a new full size Ford to see you local courthouse and see judge Hangemhigh ! Have FUN and argue and struggle with them ! They would LOVE to try out their new nightsticks on your head......... Not to worry..... the statue (spl) of limitations has expired!  j/k NO wait.........odo tampering is a FED rap ! Them folks in the nice suits aren't siding salesmen.......... Agents Mulder and Scully got a new job assignment. The X-files of odo tampering ! You are about to enter a new dimension of sight and sounds.........(regrets to Rod Serling) !!!!!!!!! |
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Replying to: audia8q (Apr 09, 2007 11:53 am) So given he monthly mileage rate, chances are pretty good the mileage on this car is right around 41,000. Do we know "exactly"? No. But do we really "know"? Yes we do. I suppose he could have driven to Guatemala and back with a broken odometer during late October, early November, but.....not likely.... |
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In Indiana, if a vehicle is over 10 years old, you can just write the words EXEMPT in the mileage statement. We just financed (for our son who is paying us back) a 1994 Chrysler LHS (one owner, great condition, 99K miles) with this exempt situation. It was a new car trade-in that was auctioned by a large dealer and picked up by a small dealer and then bought by us. Back in my college days I belonged to this recreational type club that would rent university car pool vans for club trips. I had recently joined and happened to be at the club leader's house one day when I see the president and vice president on the dash of a university van with an electric drill. I was naive/unaware of what they were doing until I became club president a few years later. It turns out our student body funded/budgeted 2,000 mile club tips were only billed by car pool for 400 miles and the extra funds were being used instead for recreational equipment purchases! Our crafty/law bending club leaders were also budgeting new recreation equipment (all that was allowed) and buying two used pieces instead. It was all up-and-up the two years I ran the club.
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Replying to: jrdwyer (Apr 14, 2007 6:00 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 15, 2007 7:39 am) |
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A TMU car is forever branded as TMU. If your odometer needs to be replaced it's just your tough luck. You can't order a guage cluster with a certain number of miles on the odometer. Even if you could, how would a person know how many miles the car was driven with a non-working odometer? Oh, some potential buyers wouldnt' be bothered. Tehy would look at the door sticker and be comfortable with that. But a lot of others wouldn't touch that car and on a trade in it would be hit hard. The newer and more expensive car, the worse the effect. On a ten year old car, most people wouldn't care. Years ago, I heard they had "clock guys" who would work the car lots just like the paintless dent guys and other vendors do now. For ten dollars, they would "clock" the cars and roll them back. I guess it was pretty commonplace back in the 50's and 60's. Years ago, I had a 1964 VW bug that developed a noisy speedo head. For 5.00, I was allowed to root through a large box of VW speedometers and pick the one I liked. I remember, at the time I was more concerned over the condition of it then the miles it displayed. Replacing it was a ten minute job.
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Replying to: isellhondas (Jun 02, 2007 2:26 pm) -mike
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Replying to: paisan (Jun 04, 2007 3:34 pm) Though we have had occasions where it made a huge difference on 30K mile cars. Talking $3K-$4K difference and the only way we were able to satisfy it was by going to the point of telling the customer that falsifying a Federal Odometer Statement is against the law. |
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