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Acura TL, Electrical, Engine, Sedan
#1602 of 5656 Re: There is no trans issue with current TL [danny1878]
Jan 12, 2005 (12:44 pm)
To Danny 1837:
You have a point...all cars have problems, but a driveline vibration (in a 35K car) is a major issue. Yes, my comments are negative because the car has given me many problems, which remain uncorrected.
The car has been back to the dealer 6 times in one year and spent a total of 12 days in the shop. I have called Acura and they are non responsive.
My last car was a Toyota Avalon and the car was absolutely the best. The car only went back to the dealer for inspections. If you want to hear something positive, I will positively trade my 04 TL on a new 06 Avalon.
By the way, Acura TL's from 1999 to 2004 have transmission issues. Many Honda products (cars and vanís) in this time frame have had their trans warranties extended. I have a new 2004 TL and it was recalled because the second gear was prone to overheating and cracking. I think they put in an oil-cooling device to lubricate the 2nd gear.
Do you want to buy my 04 TL?
#1603 of 5656 Re: There is no trans issue with current TL [tedescm1]
Jan 12, 2005 (12:49 pm)
Sorry I didnt make my point clearly. There is no tranny failure on TL 04 like the previous generation TL.
Check the NHTSA websites, TL has the least complaint on tranny FAILURES/REPLACEMENT compared to INFINITI, BMW AND LEXUS
and actually the least complaint overall.
Yes there was a recall, but I like recalls, that means what would be a problem is being taken cared early.
IMO recall is just a prevention not an issue.
Yes I would buy another TL again!. Best value with the least problems. why not?
Do you want to buy my accord 97? I need an SUV
#1604 of 5656 Re: There is no trans issue with current TL [tedescm1]
Jan 12, 2005 (12:52 pm)
"I think they put in an oil-cooling device to lub the 2nd gear."
Not - the TSB has the dealer replace the AT fill cap with an external oil line/jet combination to spray the gears with extra AT fluid. It's not pretty but I guess it serves the purpose. Still, I'm glad that my new transmission didn't need to be modified like that.
Jan 12, 2005 (2:30 pm)
Before I got my 05 TL I used to come here and wonder if I should get a TL, due to all the problems reported. After a 'wider' angle of research I went with it. When I picked up my TL to drive home my wife told me to try that DVD-A out and all that. I said no I want to look for rattles, squeaks, and oh the all important 50-mph vibrations. You can imagine how confused my wife was. Anyway, 40 miles home stretch and nothing. Just a quiet and composed ride home. Yes the ride is firmer than ES, and it gives you more feel on some tough road, but it's nothing really uncomfortable. On paved road it's quite sweet.
Now I am just relaxed on it driving and listening to the nice audio. My ES is being complained to hell in their forum for tranny hesitation. I have little problem with it. Its paddle is not as quickly responsive as TL but no hesitation for me. These two cars are the best selling entry luxos, and if there're really something fundamentally wrong with them, they won't sell nearly as many.
So my advice to those sitting on the sideline like I used to reading these posts, test drive to believe, and talk to someones you know who own the car. My own feedback is very positive for sure. I am not saying it's perfect. There are a few gripes of mine: thick C-pillar/tall headrest&trunk challenges the rear view a bit; glove box is on the small side; doors are somewhat too 'springy', gear shifter (AT) is a bit notchy at times. All very minor and kind of subjective too. Another subjective one: This one looks hot inside and out!
#1606 of 5656 Take a long test drive before you buy
Jan 12, 2005 (3:42 pm)
I definitely side with those who feel the harsh ride, vibrations and poor visibility are real issues. Having said that, if I had taken the TL for a 2 hour test drive, I would have never bought it. My mistake and something to learn from.I only drove the car on the dealer prescribed route for fifteen minutes, I was wowed by the acceleration, stereo and gadgetry. The happy ending was I was able to trade the TL in and get a much better car for me with minimal financial loss.
#1607 of 5656 Re: traded-in the TL for a much better car [revras]
Jan 12, 2005 (3:58 pm)
What other car was that?
#1608 of 5656 Re: carnaught is right [bodble2]
Jan 12, 2005 (4:56 pm)
"it takes a lot of time and money just to get the action started."
Sure, but who's time and who's money? Once enough people register a complaint and a law firm senses that a settlement looks possible, they'll spend the time and money to push the action forward. All it takes is a bunch of people with a legitimate complaint.
Angry car owners can register their complaint at
#1609 of 5656 Re: My '04 [tedescm1]
Jan 12, 2005 (5:45 pm)
tedescm1, To get a hearing through BBB Auto Line call 1-800-955-5100, the decision is binding on Acura but not on you and there is info in the book that came with the car. ricko
#1610 of 5656 Re: carnaught is right [ktnr]
Jan 12, 2005 (5:49 pm)
Yeah, they'll spend the time. You supply the money. I'd bet many, if not most, would have sold their cars by the time there is anything close to a resolution on a lawsuit.
#1611 of 5656 Re: is the TL worth buying? [ktnr]
Jan 12, 2005 (6:33 pm)
ktnr, you make great points. Personally, I make major buying decisions based on objective data and my subjective emotional experience driving the car. Basing a purchase decision on posts in a 'problems and solutions' thread is to disregard the long term quality history of a product and manufacturer. As ktnr points out, there is no such thing as a risk free auto purchase. I am curious why so many posters with concerns about quality would buy any car in the first year of a re-design. We do know that quality tends to improve in subsequent years after a re-design. Fortunately for those disinfranchised owners, Acura has a great re-sale value (which might be the marketplace evidence that brand/model quality is good). Sell the thing and buy a fine German auto and then let us know how that goes.