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Infiniti M45, Infiniti M35
#1323 of 6008 Re: Infiniti Of Huntsville (Alabama) [kfhmail]
Mar 23, 2005 (10:35 am)
Thanks for letting me know about the M45.
For me, the best person there to deal with has been Ken, their Internet Sales guy. His office might be in the Dodge building. Don't know if they are competitive with Nashville, Bhm & Chattanooga.
Not unusual, but they've had some recent staffing turnover there. I did think it was wierd that they had so many leftover 2004 G35 sedans, and even a leftover 2003, that they haven't sold yet.
#1324 of 6008 Re: who bought one? [markcincinnati]
Mar 23, 2005 (10:46 am)
I'm not quite sure why anyone would think leasing is better than buying unless you can deduct it. If you plan on keeping your car more than 2 years buying is almost always better. With cars that hold good resale, such as Lexus, Acura, Infinity etc. If you figure your payments on a lease versus what your car is worth on the market and what you paid you will be ahead by 10-20%. There is never been a article written that says leasing is bettert unless you deduct it. Now, if you go out and buy a car which loses tremendous value at trade-in or on the open market it is probably better to lease on the cheap. I have personally bought both Lexus and Acura and when it came time to sell them I was way ahead over leasing. It is not hard to sell a quality car for good money. For the most part auto manufacturers love to lease cars becuase it is simple, they make more money. Go out and buy a Acura TL, and after 4 years it is still worth quite a bit, with reasonable mileage. If you figure your lease payments along with down stroke it is much better to buy. The reason most people lease is because they just can't afford to buy.
#1325 of 6008 Re: Dealer Inventories in Southern California [richcream]
Mar 23, 2005 (11:49 am)
I have a 2002 BMW 325i and like you am 6'2". Legroom up front has been a bit tight.
Have you sat in an M yet?
I tried a new GS. Found it a bit tight.
#1326 of 6008 Re: who bought one? [courtney11]
Mar 23, 2005 (11:49 am)
Well said courtney11, unless it's a business deduction, most people talking about leasing look at the monthly payment as an affordability benchmark vs, implict interest rates, etc., which economically speaking, are rarely better than buying a car. Besides, residual values might not have anything to do with reality, it's all a "funny money" game that dealers play to entice people with that nominal per month payment vs. the actual per month econmic cost. The debate goes on....
#1327 of 6008 Hey folks
Mar 23, 2005 (12:12 pm)
Let's let that be the end of the general leasing discussion here. Anyone who wants to continue should check out our Smart Shopper board. There are several leasing discussions there that you'll probably enjoy.
#1328 of 6008 Re: Dealer Inventories in Southern California [hpowders]
Mar 23, 2005 (12:13 pm)
I've driven the M35x several times and it has more than enough room in the driver's seat, both head and leg. Very comfortable.
Mar 23, 2005 (2:16 pm)
The Terracotta interior with sport seats in the X3 is striking -- because it is an opinion. I also really like the interiors of the A6's and the Infiniti M's (bourbon for me!)
I bought a new year Audi (more than once, and other than that nasty little problem with the engine needing to be replaced in my first Audi 90 -- hey it was under warranty and everything, it happened almost immediately!!!) and have also had other car's in their infancy with few regrets.
But I personally have never had a BMW, my wife had one in 1988 (before we were married) -- a 325 ix and it was mostly flawless. So, the point is, I dunno if I would worry about the new model thing or not.
I've never had a Japanese car, lux or not, I read all the reliability stuff -- but the only folks I know, personally, who have Japanese cars have them because they "take being ignored" so very well.
When I ask my friends about their Acura's for example they tell me about frequency of repair not fun to drive stuff.
I even kinda got that impression at the Infiniti dealer the other night at the M soire -- the people were all very nice, bright, apparently educated and successful -- but they all seemed like, uh, hmmm, CPA's (no offense). They were interested in just about everything about the cars except the driving experience.
Now, having test driven an M35, I can attest that they are very engaging and able to be tossed with passion, etc. Very Germanic, very European, indeed.
There is a difference in the experience at both the BWM store and the Infiniti Store. Both places are like the lobbies of 4 or 5 star hotels and there is always a receptionist willing to get you a bottle of water, soda or even a Starbucks from the in house boutique (I kid you not) -- but the focus at the BMW dealership is on the drivers and the driving (Car and Driver, hmm good name for a magazine). The Infitini dealer just seemed more interested in making me comfortable, we didn't seem to get engaged in conversations about THE CARS.
Different approaches -- neither one is particularly superior. I may have a preference, but I understand the Infiniti approach just as much as I understand the BMW approach. My wife says it is a difference of PASSION.
It doesn't help that C&D's review, for instance, of the new GS3 from Lexus praised the car high and low and zinged it on the way out by saying "it lacks passion [but Lexus owners won't care]" What kind of left-handed "compliment" was that?
Where was I anyhow?
#1330 of 6008 Re: markcincinnati [tayl0rd]
Mar 23, 2005 (2:51 pm)
WOW!!! did not know that. I was waiting to see it in person this weekend. I happen to be fond of the piped interior look. Most makes do not offer this, less Rover and a few other models. That's too bad, trying to go for the "look" and cutting corners to get there. Must be taking queues from BMW and it's new X3 approach.
"I've never had a Japanese car, lux or not, I read all the reliability stuff -- but the only folks I know, personally, who have Japanese cars have them because they "take being ignored" so very well."
Now Mark I would expect better from you. Looks are subjective, example the BMW X3 interior. Reliability is not subjective in the least!....does little Markie need a time out???
#1331 of 6008 Re: Infiniti Of Huntsville (Alabama) [lurker]
Mar 23, 2005 (3:03 pm)
If you were in the market for an 04 G35 sedan, you would think you could make a good deal with how many they still have.
Hopefully they will get a good assortment of the Ms (different color combo's).
Based on the small amount of time I spent in the cars, I like the metal interior better than the wood. I think for the wood it will depend on what color leather you get.
I am not really interested in the sport model, but I would go that way if I bought right now to get the metal interior.
Would probably get both the Journey and Tech package.
Wish you could get the power rear sun shade without getting the entertainment/premium package.
So...I am currently comparing the M35 and the Acura RL. I may wait until the 06 RL is available to see if they add the ventilated seats. I definitely want the cooled seats for the climate here. (The GS 300 is out of the picture after I sat in it...I am 6'1"...not enough headroom in the front seats.)
Let me know if they let you test drive one without a salesman...I get much more out of the test drive with a saleman talking to me. Also, did you schedule a test drive time with the internet manager or just walk in?
Mar 23, 2005 (3:15 pm)
I suggest the M. It just seems to do everything better than the RL.
Mark, it sounds like you've been rather lucky with your cars.