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#343 of 363 Re: What price to negotiate on Invoice ? [twain809] by pao Mar 18, 2009 (4:38 am)
Replying to: twain809 (Mar 17, 2009 12:02 pm) get a signed sales agreement with your total price, less your deposit and the order number on it. with a signed sales agreement you are protected against any manufacturer price increase.....whether or not you will be eligible for incentives at time of delivery I dont know about.....most incentives are tied to existing dealer stock and not specific customer orders......again...get it in writing from the SALES MANAGER.....not just your sales man....   make sure they can change the specs on the car too...if the order from the dealer has already been accepted...believe its code 3000, its too late to change specs, if the order is just sitting in the dealers order que awaiting an allocation, then it can still be changed.....order allocations to dealers are released weekly, however the dealer should now how many he can order in any one given month...   dont leave with just a receipt for your deposit...
#344 of 363 Dwayne by cdfinney Mar 20, 2009 (10:41 am)
Well my wife and I went looking at the new CTS and was quoted prices about $4000 off MSRP. That was fine, but then I learn that If I was coming off a lease they would give me another $4000 off totaling $8000. I just can not sign the papers for a new car knowing someone else can just walk in and get a $4000 lower price. This is only for for someone who is coming off a lease and it doesn't matter what brand of car you leased. My problem with that is that I own Sierra Denali and a Grand Am. So I called GM and let them know I will not buy any more cars from them. Beautiful car, but thats 10% of the cost. Replies to this message: pao (Mar 23, 2009 3:43 am) waffleman (Mar 23, 2009 8:49 am) pao (Mar 24, 2009 3:37 am)
#345 of 363 Re: Dwayne [cdfinney] by pao Mar 23, 2009 (3:43 am)
Replying to: cdfinney (Mar 20, 2009 10:41 am) national incentives Im sure...but the dealer is the one who ultimately sells the car for the $$....did you pass the same information to the dealer..........got mine during their employee pricing offer back in Sept....and got $7500 off an MSRP of over $49K....
#346 of 363 Re: Dwayne [cdfinney] by waffleman Mar 23, 2009 (8:49 am)
Replying to: cdfinney (Mar 20, 2009 10:41 am) I agree. I am in the market as well - but I can't swallow spending so much $$ when I know that others are paying $4000 less for the same car than I would - nothing fair about that. Then, I see that the Lexus 350 and Audi A4 (though this one is smaller than the CTS) are WAY cheaper than the CTS. I'm going to check those out and see if they are any good. Replies to this message: pao (Mar 24, 2009 3:37 am)
#347 of 363 Re: Dwayne [waffleman] by pao Mar 24, 2009 (3:37 am)
Replying to: waffleman (Mar 23, 2009 8:49 am) so why not challenge the dealership to match the price....if they are eager to sale....they certainly might negotiate....when comparing the A4 and the 350...depends on the options you put on them when comparing to the CTS....looked at the A4, but the GM drive train warranty and the price optioned out the way I wanted the CTS couldnt be matched.....   also didnt want the sky high maintenance prices Audi and Lexus charges either....
#348 of 363 Re: Dealer located a car at another dealer? Added cost? [twain809] by temj12 Mar 25, 2009 (5:55 pm)
Replying to: twain809 (Mar 16, 2009 6:12 pm) When a dealer gets a car from another dealer, the dealer with the car gets to keep the hold-back. The hold-back is about 3% (I believe) of the msrp. It stands to reason that they can't make the deal with you that they could if they had the car in stock. In addition, there is the transport charge that they incur with a driver to bring the car to them. The hold-back is a fee that the corporation pays the dealer for each car sold. Incidentally when you look at the invoice, this is a hidden profit that does not show
#349 of 363 Great experience from upstate NY dealer by twain809 Mar 30, 2009 (12:59 pm)
I recently purchased a CTS and wanted to pass on the info for the dealer where I got it:   Valley Cadillac 3100 Winton Rd South Rochester, NY 14623 http://www.valleycadillachummer.com/   I live in NYC and contacted a number of dealers via the internet. One of the larger dealers in NJ just across the river did not respond to emails, and when I called him, he sounded like the stereo-typical New Jersey salesman. He offered to sell a car to me at invoice.   After contacting Cadillac (faqcadillac.com) to ask where I might find the CTS with the specs that I wanted, they sent me a list that included Valley Cadillac. Instead of firing off an email to them, I called and was put through to a salesperson. I don't know if she is the only salesperson on their team, but she was good. Ask for her and tell her the guy from NYC sent you.   In fact, the price was good enough that I still saved $$ even after accounting for the cost of my one-way flight from NYC to Rochester to pick up the car. The drive back to NYC (5 hours or so) was a perfect way to break in the CTS! Replies to this message: temj12 (Mar 30, 2009 10:20 pm) twain809 (Mar 31, 2009 3:05 pm)
#350 of 363 Re: Great experience from upstate NY dealer [twain809] by temj12 Mar 30, 2009 (10:20 pm)
Replying to: twain809 (Mar 30, 2009 12:59 pm) You did not mention the discounts that you got. When I bought mine in January, there was a credit union discount, loyalty cash, bonus cash and, in my case, credit from my GM Mastercard. Replies to this message: twain809 (Mar 31, 2009 3:05 pm)
#351 of 363 Re: Great experience from upstate NY dealer [temj12] by twain809 Mar 31, 2009 (3:05 pm)
Replying to: temj12 (Mar 30, 2009 10:20 pm) While there were a number of discounts out there at the time, I did not qualify for them all. For example, I am not a member of a credit union, so while this discount was available, I could not take advantage of it. Neither did I have a family or friend who worked at GM, otherwise I might have gotten the employee pricing. Similarly, I couldn't take advantage of the $4,000 discount for terminating a lease as I was not leasing a car.   In the end, it was the $2,500 cash discount plus a $1,000 private offer that GM made to me.
#352 of 363 follow up by cdfinney Apr 22, 2009 (4:29 pm)
I did talk to 5 dealers in my area and none did anything about the $4000 difference that i wanted too. the owner of Mataga in Stockton did plead my case to a rep, but to no avail. I also called Cadillac that did not work either, but they did send me email w/ a 1k coupon. anyone thinking of buying should call and complain. I did find a dealer in LA that has some w/ 9k off. that puts me at 10k off only 500 short. it is my wife's dream car, so i may pull this trigger. Replies to this message: bingoman (Apr 22, 2009 4:42 pm) temj12 (Apr 25, 2009 8:22 am)

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