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#116 of 126 Ford HEV by nippononly Nov 03, 2003 (8:13 am)
delayed due to problems interfacing electronics between multiple suppliers - story in automotive news this week states they will be in production July 2004. This IS the Toyota hybrid system, but Ford will use its own engines and controllers - seems like RX400H might actually beat it to market, and the hybrid HL may not come after it by much either.   Toyota has been going back and forth as to just what it will do with the RAV after 2006. It seems inevitable that the HL will have to grow to compete properly with Pilot and the like. It also does not seem likely that Toyota will leave all its cute ute sales (quite substantial) in the hands of the new FJ, which is a two-door BOF trucklet. And now that it uses the same engine as the Camry, maybe it would not even be tht difficult to offer a hybrid RAV after they get the hybrid Camry rolling...
#117 of 126 Newsflash!! by drfill Nov 03, 2003 (3:34 pm)
Toyota Prius sales in 2 weeks of October: 4,000+! This easily beats their previous record MONTH (not 2 weeks) by 1,500 units!     The 2004 model has already outsold the Insight FOR THE YEAR!     Now back to your regularly scheduled program.     drfill
#118 of 126 by coolguyky7 Nov 03, 2003 (7:20 pm)
I read somewhere that Toyota wanted to add 2 more SUVs to its lineup, one of them being something smaller than the RAV4.
#119 of 126 people by nippononly Nov 04, 2003 (9:26 pm)
think of the RAV whenever they think of cute-utes - it has serious brand cachet. It would be short-sighted for them to throw that away. better for them to reduce its size if an even smaller ute is what they want.   And it really should be the next Toyota to get a hybrid powertrain after HL. Sienna and Camry are supposed to be next after that, but both get better mileage than RAV AWD, and it is a smaller vehicle!
#120 of 126 What will happen if by drfill Nov 10, 2003 (9:11 pm)
Toyota sells 40,000, 50,000 Prius in 2004? What will other makers do in response?     drfill
#121 of 126 Honda and Nissan by nippononly Nov 10, 2003 (11:42 pm)
will speed up their hybrid introductions...and Ford will announce another six month delay in the public intro of the Escape HEV.
#122 of 126 by varmint Nov 11, 2003 (5:27 am)
At the current pace, it looks to be an issue of "when", not "if".   I think the other companies will let fly with a hearty "dangnabbit" and then continue as they have been. It's not like they haven't been trying. They just started too late.
#123 of 126 RX400H-Release Date? by vetpathologist Nov 11, 2003 (10:57 am)
Does anybody know when the Lexus hybrid is supposed to go on sale in the US? Any other luxury cars with hybrid engines?
#124 of 126 Vet by drfill Nov 13, 2003 (7:04 am)
Rx400H is coming November 2004. It may have 350-400HP! At least two electric engines work with a 200Hp gas V6.        So Ford still has time to get the Escape out first. The way things are going though, Ford may just be blowing hot air about a true hybrid. They need 'Yota tech/parts anyway.      Any Nissan Hybrid will use 'Yota's system.      drfill

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