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#9825 of 14965 Toyota Sales for October 2005.
Nov 02, 2005 (6:58 am)
HELLO TO ALL MY OLD FRIENDS HERE.
78,195 Avalons sold to date (compared to 31,315 for all of 2004). When November sales are reported, Toyota will have hit their estimated 85 thousand plus sales for the year and that was without having any sales in January because of it's late introduction. I feel sorry for those that do have some problems with their new Avalon, but the sales tell another story. There are some, although very few that post here complaining about the smallest thing and realize they fall in the camp of those you can never satisfy. I am approaching 12,000 miles on my XLS 2005 Avalon, and haven't had a problem to date. It's the best car I have over owned and a dream to drive. My Dealer's service department is a gem. They have the 29 minute oil change service. No appointment necessary, you just drive up and if you don't get the car in 29 minutes you get a free oil change next time. I only had that happen once. They were late by two minutes and I got a free change next time, I felt a little bad, but they know me and they keep you happy.
#9826 of 14965 Loud cold engine ?????
Nov 02, 2005 (7:19 am)
I know there are scattered discussion on this message board about the loud engine starting noises on the new Avalons. I have an 06 XL and whenever I start it the engine noise is pretty loud for a few minutes. When I put in in Drive and start driving then the engine is reasonably quiet. Is this normal??? I'm a little confused from all the postings about some saying it's quiet from the start to drive while others have my syndromes.
Also I do notice at idle, there is a lot of clattering or mild knocking noise. At first I thought it was the regular grade gas I was using. After I changed to supreme grade gas, the noise is still there.
Lastly, if I do in fact have an engine with problems. How has the service been at your Toyota dealers in fixing the above mentioned problems? I hate to go through all the inconveniences of losing my car for a week or so only for the dealer to tell me that this is all normal, etc.........
Thanks for your input!
#9828 of 14965 Re: Trade-In Value for an 05 Limited [one4damoni]
Nov 02, 2005 (10:10 am)
Perhaps you should sell it before you lose any more money!
I'm sure there are enough of us drooling over this forum who don't have our Avalon yet who would be happy to take it off your hands.
Seriously, despite what KBB or other pricing services may say I don't think there's an '05 Limited to be had at $25k unless it's been under water. All the used prices I've seen are so close to full, new, retail that I'm not even considering used any more. With differences of <$2k between a new '06 and a used '05 I think I'll treat myself to a brand new one next year -- I hope!
#9829 of 14965 Re: Trade-In Value for an 05 Limited [one4damoni]
Nov 02, 2005 (10:30 am)
one4damoni, See the Edmonds Trade in value below for you car, $29,631, that's $4,631 more dollars then the Kelly site. They probably don't have enough information yet to be real. I would believe the Edmonds site. You see the Private party price is listed as $31,317, and the dealer selling price as $34,508. Good luck. I posted the information you listed with 8,500 miles in excellent condition.
TRADE IN. $29,631- PRIVATE PARTY. $31,317 - DEALER SELLING PRICE. $34,508
Certified Used Vehicle $36,333
#9830 of 14965 Re: Trade-In Value for an 05 Limited [one4damoni]
Nov 02, 2005 (10:32 am)
I just checked the Canadian Black Book pricing. This is similiar to your Kelly Blue Book. These cars do depreciate more than I thought. With approx. 10,000.km a 2005 loaded XLS has lost about $15,000. CDN in one year. A fully loaded Highlander V6 Limited has lost $8,500 to $9,000 in the same time frame.
#9831 of 14965 Re: Trade-In Value for an 05 Limited [bdyment]
Nov 02, 2005 (12:47 pm)
Forget about those actuarial estimated values. The real value is determined by supply and demand. People are waiting weeks and months for an Avalon, Toyota has admitted that they underestimated demand and are trying to ramp up production.
All fleet deliveries of Avalons have been deferred until February '06 so they can satisfy retail demand first and not too many dealers are dealing on prices.
If you really wanted one right now, wouldn't you pay just slightly less than the cost of a new one to get an almost new used one?
The limited supply ensures that the Avalon will retain it's value for some time to come.
When they are as ubiquitous as Camrys, then that will be another story...
As for SUV retaining their values - forget about that. The KBB and other projected valuations are based upon historical data, not the situation as it is now.
The gas scare has caused a slump in the sales of ALL SUV's including the Highlander and Pilot and the new car lots are flooded with them and are being offered at invoice from the outset. What do you think that is doing to resale values?
#9832 of 14965 '05 Avalon Trade-in Value
Nov 02, 2005 (1:55 pm)
Just for fun... I called around Atlanta looking for a used '05 Avalon. I found a live dinosaur, the formula for Coca Cola.... and a map to the remains of Jimmy Hoffa. But no used '05 Avalons... Hmmmmm....does this tell us anything about the resale value?
#9833 of 14965 Re: '05 Avalon Trade-in Value [fin]
Nov 02, 2005 (2:10 pm)
They had a "used" Blizzard Pearl Limited at Toyota of Roswell about a month ago with only a couple of thousand miles on it. It was priced at new MSRP. It sat there for a couple of weeks but it sold. I always wondered why such a new one would be on the used car lot so soon.
They also had a demo XLS (with door dings in it ) at MSRP too.
#9834 of 14965 Re: Avalon Engine Failure [dissanayake]
Nov 02, 2005 (6:14 pm)
I think Toyota owns us an explaination on what caused the "hole" in the Limited's new engine block (see #6197). It was on my mind as I drove the lonely Interstate 70 in eastern Utah into Colorado! Toyota should have some kind of failure analysis done by now..Are you there TOYOTA??