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#10 of 14780 No spy shots or drawings? by jeff186 Oct 19, 2003 (7:23 am)
Seems somewhat odd that there have been no spy drawings or shots of the supposed new design for the '05 model year. Or have I missed them? I hope the rumored '05 redesign is true with hopefully a larger V6 in the mix.
#11 of 14780 jeff186 new model by nomad56 Oct 19, 2003 (9:07 am)
Jeff- Yeah, that's what I was going on, when I speculated that it would be dropped. It seemed Toyota was letting it fade away. The next day, I spoke to my friend who "hinted" the redesign, and continued production, is "probably" a go. ...as offering an alternative to the Detroit sedans is a good idea. Keep in mind the new LS430 is considered a "redesign". Subtle at best.
#12 of 14780 Toyota and redesigns: by carguy58 Oct 19, 2003 (7:54 pm)
The LS430 does not look like a redesign it looks like a mid cycle refreshening.   Why can't Toyota offer a more sporty ride ala Acura TL instead of going with the soft/cushy ride?   It seems like Toyota is making the cars look taller and their cars have lost their sleekness because of the "tall factor". The Mazda 3 is tall looking but its not bland. I wish Toyota would have continued with their late 90's styling theme instead of this tall looking theme.
#13 of 14780 carguy58 by alpha01 Oct 21, 2003 (7:48 am)
If you think Toyota needs to target a sportier ride, a la the TL, with its Avalon, I'm guessing you dont understand the demographic this vehicle targets. How many TL purchasers long for a bench front seat?   Lost their sleekness? Fair enough. But the current Corolla is better looking than any of the Corollas since my birth, and the new Solara is, at the least, different, I think it looks great. What about Celica, MR2, RAV4? All good looking vehicles. But looks are subjective anyway. Done right, even the Camry can be downright sharp.   ~alpha
#14 of 14780 alpha 1 by carguy58 Oct 21, 2003 (9:37 am)
The MR2 is nice. The Celica and RAV 4 I like alot. The Camry I don't really like it. I liked the 1992-1996 and the 1997-2001 models better than the 02+. The Corolla I liked the 98-02 model better in terms of looks than the 03+. I think the 98-02 Corolla looked better than previous generations of Corolla.   The Solara tries to look like a luxury coupe but just doesn't pull it off for me.   Look are subjective I know.
#15 of 14780 Any More News? by jeff186 Oct 25, 2003 (5:51 am)
Well, I've been prowling around various websites but can't find anything about the '05 Avalon. Nada from coverage of this month's Tokyio auto show. And nothing about the possibility of the '05 Avalon being at the Detroit Auto Show in January. Most frustrating. I'm hoping a resigned model is really coming. Seems kinda odd that the supposed flagship of the Toyota line lags the current Camry SE in engine and drivetrain.
#16 of 14780 '05 Avalon by samnoe Oct 25, 2003 (9:27 pm)
Will have the 3.3L engine with 230 hp used in the late Toyota & Lexus models, (New Sienna, RX 300, Highlander, etc.) and the same 5-speed automatic.   I'm almost sure the new Avalons will have the newer type of outside door handles, found on any other Toyota model. I hope they will have fold-away side mirrors which could be very useful for such a wide-body car. I also hope they will add illuminated controls for the power door lock & window controls, as in the Lexus LS430.   I personally like much more the newer Avalons than the '98 models, but I still think that the 2002 are nicer than the 2003 (front grille, taillights and wheels), but I like both more than the '98 models.   I also like more the Camry & Corolla than the previous generation. However, the new Sienna is completely not my taste.   Toyota's cars are so different looking from each other. Most other companies, Chrysler, Dodge, Ford, Chevy, Honda ++ have a unique look. Most people will know right away 'It's a Ford! It's a Honda!', etc. Should somebody show me the new Sienna without Toyota badging, I would never dreamed it's a Toyota. The grille, taillights, and wheels are very different than any other Toyota model out there. But inside it has a real Toyota look.   Toyota's tradition is to offer a plush quiet ride, not great handling (but acceptable, though). For handling go to Honda or Mazda.
#17 of 14780 FYI: 2005 Avalon... by nomad56 Oct 26, 2003 (9:48 am)
If you go to the following link: http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/new/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/- 37553 This is probably the same news my "deepthroat" industry insider received.... -nomad56-
#18 of 14780 Found more infor on Car and Driver Site by rschlude Nov 04, 2003 (11:23 am)
I love love love my '98 Avalon. Hope the new one is worth the wait. I found this on the Car and Driver Web site "2005 Toyota Avalon Redesign on new Camry platform, to serve as a destination vehicle for older customers." I might just get an '04 if this is the case!
#19 of 14780 insider info by cawiles Nov 05, 2003 (6:02 am)
I, too, have friend in the car business. A Toyota sales manager to be exact. The 2005 Avalon will be redesigned to look more like the Lexus. The Avalon's sales have slowed and you will likely see fewer 2004 models as dealerships prepare for the new design. As for the Camry, I think it's a great looking and riding car. The performance is, in my opinion, more than adequate. I like both cars largely due to the fact that the styling is subtle, not so "over the top" as some of the manufacturers' cars - such as the Nisaan line. Replies to this message: john609 (Oct 25, 2004 4:55 pm)

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