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#83 of 14955 ok seriously please take note
by alpha01
Jan 31, 2004 (12:35 pm)
Toyota, historically, does not introduce its mainstream vehicle redesigns at major auto shows that are many months prior to the models introduction. It risks cannabalizing sales of its top brand recognition models. Take for example, the redesigned 2003 Corolla which did not hit the auto show circuit with fanfare, nor did the redesigned 2002 Camry. Honda takes similar measures with its Civic and Accord. Finally, the redesigned 00 Avalon was not introed at an auto show either.
All I'm saying is that just because the redesigned Avalon is not scheduled to make an auto show intro, does not mean you will not see a new one in the Fall. In fact, I dont believe the MT blurb about introduction as a 2006 model. This seems not to make sense to me.
For all intents and purposes, it is logical to believe that the next Avalon will use the 3.3L from the Camry SE V6, Solara V6 models, etc. Toyota already produces this engine, and makes the current Avalon alongside those cars at TMMK. I can't imagine there would be any production/manufacturing limitation to introducing the Avalon in the Fall as an 05 model.
Certainly, I may be wrong, but it doesnt seem to make sense to delay the intro, with the current Avalon behind the curve in terms of power, safety, features, etc, especially with the impending introduction of the able Ford Five-Hundred/Mercury Montego, Chrysler 300, and the bargain hunters delight, Kia Amanti.
~alpha
#84 of 14955 Ford Five Hundred
by motownusa
Jan 31, 2004 (8:10 pm)
Looks Ok, but the powertrain is a dud. Same 200 Hp and ft-lb like the Taurus. Why didn't they just called it the Taurus anyway? They could at least have used the higher output V6 from the Lincoln LS. Given that the car is big and heavy (around 3600 lbs) acceleration probably won't be the car's strength. It is kind of hard to imagine this car competing against the Avalon.
Jan 31, 2004 (8:25 pm)
They didn't call it the Taurus because Ford wants all their cars to start with an F and Mercury to start with an M.
#86 of 14955 Taurus...
by samnoe
Feb 03, 2004 (7:47 am)
Ha Ha!
You must be kidding...
Anyway, the new Ford 500 will have a new 6-speed tranny or a CVT, and AWD option. Also, next year Ford will introduce a brand new engine with much more output than the current Duratec.
You can read more about that in the Ford Five Hundred future models message board.
#87 of 14955 I agree with alpha01
by teereeves
Feb 03, 2004 (6:36 pm)
I believe MT made a mistake about the redesigned Avalon coming out as a '06 model. Currently Toyota is selling the '03 Avalon as a '04 Avalon as it prepares to release the redesigned '05 Avalon in the fall.
#88 of 14955 redesign
by otis123
Feb 05, 2004 (3:09 pm)
Comes out this august/sept as a 2005 - like clockwork - and you won't see it anywhere until just before it's released...
Ralph
#90 of 14955 Production starts January 3, 2005
by toyotasiennab
Mar 01, 2004 (8:43 pm)
production on the Avalon starts January 3, 2005. This i know for fact. My understanding is that the vehicle is gonna have dual exhaust and will be running approximately 270hp, from a 3.5. I believe one of the upcoming Lexus' will be utilizing this engine.
Mar 02, 2004 (5:35 pm)
I'll second the knowledge that the new V-6 will be a 3.5L. This is consistent with what I've been hearing for months.
#92 of 14955 Don't think so...
by abfisch
Mar 03, 2004 (8:23 am)
Not being a forecaster, not gambler, those last two posts seem dreamlike. While, anyone would say very nice, the Toyota Corp. I know would more likely use the engine they are using in the Lexus 330 and probably would not have true dual exhausts, more like exhaust tips or tailpipe and muffler backs. A true dual exhaust would be very costly, to purchase and replace.
You may be right, but I am hard pressed to see Toyota making the Avalon out to be a different auto than it is targeted for, and that is for a full size (large) sedan, not a premium sports sedan.
Dual exhausts, a decrease in fuel economy, no bench seat,premium gas, and you are starting to compete with the mid size Acura instead of the Crown Vic, or Park Ave Ultra. In my humble opinion, they should use the same engine, and put better quality struts, tires, rotors, etc in the model to stay ahead of the pack.
Maybe, but I can't see it.
abfisch