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Toyota Avalon, Sedan
#8157 of 14965 Re: Article: Toyota caught inflating Horsepower numbers forced to come clea
Aug 20, 2005 (6:48 pm)
Go to Nissan's website and look at the specs for 2006 Max. You might want to inform yourself before making your argument against Toyota's fudge on horsepower. Perhaps all of the car companies did this, only time will tell. I bought a 2004 Max SL [before the new Avalon came out] and regretted the purchase almost immediately. The car had an intermittant steering wheel tremer [some call it a shimmy] which Nissan could not or would not fix [5 tries]. I finally traded the loaded Max for an unloaded Avalon XL and haven't looked back. Really, this car is more responsive and of course has far better NVH
characteristics than the Max. You have a fast and powerful car that doesn't have the sensation of being fast and powerful. Everyone should be so lucky.
#8158 of 14965 Re: Trolls [gws]
Aug 20, 2005 (7:19 pm)
Rational, well-meaning responses may also eventually lead to more knowledgeable purchases and they may also press manufacturers to improve their products in specific areas that are illuminated. True trolls are pretty obvious, but some of us are really interested in a dialog about the new Avalon because we have a real interest in buying one in the future. I have a great local dealer and this is a major reason I will continue to buy Toyotas, but I would also certainly like to see them improve in some areas where they have opportunities to do so.
I like Toyota products and they have provided my daily driver since the late 80s as well as one of my favorite toys (94 Supra, Turbo, 6speed, Targa), but there is an opportunity for them to improve in certain areas. No products are ever perfect, but I hope forums like this can help provide feedback to vendors that will lead to even better products. Specific performance characteristics may never be a problem for drivers who are never going to explore certain areas of their cars performance potential. Thus, they may be able to safely ignore those issues in their purchase decisions. Other drivers will be best served by checking out certain performance characteristics before they buy.
The transmission/hesitation issue has been brought up often enough that Toyota should find a way to improve it. If they don't, it will eventually cost them sales. Toyota does have an excellent product engineering department, but they are pushed and pulled in various directions by various economic forces. I would like to see them do something to improve the performance of their 5 speed automatic/ 6 cylinder cars in specific ways. It would not be a show stopper for me to continue to buy Camrys if they don't, but a positive resolution would encourage me to feel better about spending even more money on a higher-end Toyota offering such as the Avalon.
#8160 of 14965 Re:The Avalon mistique? [baltoman]
Aug 20, 2005 (9:07 pm)
> I spend my US dollars on American products and American workers. Afterall, I
> want MY customers to spend their money with me.
Just to set the record straight, the 2005 Toyota Avalon IS an American car. It is designed and built in the U.S. (The factory is in the international, cosmopolitan state of Kentucky.) And it is the first product developed entirely in the U.S. by the Toyota Technical Center in, of all places, Ann Arbor, Michigan. (This has been stated many times before on this forum.) I'm sure that a small fraction of the profit makes its way to Tokyo eventually, but almost all of the $25-35K per car remains right here.
Given the difficulties with new model startup, I doubt that Toyota also will be making a right-hand-drive model for Japan very soon. And the car is probably too big for much of that market anyway.
#8161 of 14965 Re: Options... [blane31]
Aug 20, 2005 (10:00 pm)
Molle - Kansas City, MO
#8162 of 14965 laser cruise control behavior
Aug 21, 2005 (4:58 am)
When LCC is enabled the window beneath the tach (I think) shows how far the lead distance is set -- short, medium, or long. If no cars ahead fall within the set range then you cruise at your preselected speed. Once a car moves into that range, a little picture of a car appears in that window and the Avalon slows down enough to maintain the preset following distance. A car braked to turn into a driveway and my car slowed greatly as if I were pressing the brake pedal. At the same time the range/distance icon and the car icon in that window started to flash. A tone began to repeat like cell phones used to make before the advent of musical ring tones. The manual says that this is to alert the driver to apply the brakes. I'm still not sure whether my car was using the brakes but how else could it have decelerated so strongly? In answer to one of your queries, you will know when your car's set speed is being modified by LCC by the appearance of the car icon in that display window on the dash (as well as by seeing the speedometer register a lower speed).
Jim in WI.
#8163 of 14965 trying again
Aug 21, 2005 (5:01 am)
Don't know why this forum left out the snip to which I was responding, but I'll try to include it again now:
Curious as to the tone that came on when LCC worked. Mine makes no sound and anything visible. The only way I know it is on is I look down and my speed has dropped. Then when I switch lanes, it is as though I tromp the gas pedal. I was just commenting last night on a drive home, I wish it would beep to let me know I am slowing down because it so gradual.
Jim in WI.
#8164 of 14965 Re: My BlueStreak has arrived! by gbinplano [dan41]
Aug 21, 2005 (7:08 am)
You wrote: I have sent an email to Coastal Electronics asking when I should expect delivery of my Viewtech adapter to integrate a backup camera with the Avalon's information display. I will post again after I have it operational."
Have you installed the back-up camera and if so, how is it working?
What different components did you have to buy? How hard was the installation? What was the total cost?
#8165 of 14965 Re: Options... [phantomgray06]
Aug 21, 2005 (9:32 am)
I brought my '05 LTD at Molle In Kansas City, Mo also and the car on the showroom floor showed the body side moldings as $399. The next day, I was on a 3-way call with the parts department and my salesman and they even quoted me $400 if they did the work. I asked my salesman if that was the best he could do. He said there is an aftermarket company that does it for Toyota and that's how I became acquainted with Cover-Up. I got them at cost (supposely) for $275. Check your paperwork again and make sure that is what they charged you for the molding. I hope as a female, I didn't get a raw deal!
#8166 of 14965 Re: Impressions after first 30 days of ownership [n0v8or]
Aug 21, 2005 (10:12 am)
That was a very comprehensive post nOv8or, I have to agree on most of your points. Please keep us posted on whether you have any success with bypassing the " I Agree" nuisance. Also I am very interested in your solution to the "flat passenger seat " as I would love to lift the front edge on our Limited's passenger seat. What did you use for shims and where did you insert them? I casually inquired at a Toyota service (sic) department about buying a Limited driver's seat, (one built for UK or other right hand drive markets) to replace my barely adjustable passenger seat. To my surprise, he actually got back to me two weeks after our bad service experience there (that's another story!) to tell me that he could get the seat and install it for $6800. I think your shim solution is more economically feasible! Thanks in advance,dandl in Motown