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#7570 of 14965 Re: Avalons and Toyota Georgetown Quality [gschultz3]
Jul 26, 2005 (4:13 am)
This forum isn't a statistically significant sample, just a place where a number of Avalon owners and salespeopel exchange messages of variable veracity. The number of folks here posting about their positive experiences with the new Avalon seems to far exceed the number of posts where people are disappointed.
It's great to hear that there's nothing wrong with your Avalon. There's nothing 'wrong' with the Avalon in general, but there are problems with some Avalons in particular.
My comments had to do with the relative change in the problem frequency for Avalons (and all Georgetown, KY built Toyotas) with respect to the past and with current competiitors.
In this year's current JDPower Initial Quality Study, neither the Avalon or Camry finished in the top three of their class, a position that they dominated in the late 1990's. The mid-sized GM cars in this segment do better and have done better that the Avalon / Camry for the last several years than earlier
The 2002 Avalon came in 3rd in the JDPower Dependability Study, which looks at total problems over 3 years. 1st and 2nd were two Buicks. GM is trying hard and doing better than Toyota in this segment despite all of the negative press they earned in prior years.
I still believe that Toyota let the quality slide at Georgetown in exchange for lower costs and higher profits through more domestic sourcing.
#7571 of 14965 Re: Avalons and Toyota Georgetown Quality [greenbelt]
Jul 26, 2005 (5:20 am)
Greenbelt, thanks for for data you listed. I am in total agreement. I am a P.E. in Corrosion Engineering and have been doing high PSIG equipment inspections since 1957 and still do consulting work. I believe I have the background to evaluate quality work. The old saying, " if you can't say anything nice about someone or something don't say it", but when you do a lot of background searching and spend mid $30,000 for an automobile and find the the things that set a car apart from another, not there, you don't feel great about it. Thanks for the data again as I was beginning to feel I was all alone listing negative comments. Enough said. Ange1
#7572 of 14965 Leather Wrap Steering Wheel/Shifter
Jul 26, 2005 (5:23 am)
I'm the proud owner a blizzard pearl 2005 XLS and I'd like to upgrade the steering wheel and shifter to the wood grain leather wrap that comes standard in the limited. I should have ordered the upgrades when I bought the car but I didn't and my local dealer says neither are available for sale as after-market upgrades yet. Does anyone here have a source or dealer that's providing the upgrades yet? There's not too many accessories available for '05 Avy. However, Toyota does offer a OEM wood grain dash kit for the center console that includes covers for the stereo compartment and the DVD navigation console pull out.
#7573 of 14965 Re: New Avalon Limited owner - taking delivery this weekend. [dcboater]
Jul 26, 2005 (5:53 am)
dcboater, did you order a 2005 or 2006? 2005 Avalon has no such color of Glacier White, its white color is Blizzard Pearl. Why you ask the question, "what does the bluetooth technology do for me?", the 2005 Avalon does not come with Bluetooth technology. Again, are you talking about a 2006 Avalon?
Let me know, Thanks.
#7574 of 14965 Re: New Avalon Limited owner - taking delivery this weekend. [teereeves]
Jul 26, 2005 (6:11 am)
Sorry, I meant Blizzard Pearl and it is a 2005 dealer swap. Bluetooth Technology must have been my confusion with the Infiniti. Once again, my apologies.
#7575 of 14965 Re: Toyota Manufacturing Locations and Vehicles Built There [greenbelt]
Jul 26, 2005 (6:49 am)
The information you provided does not tell us where most product originates. Its a North American site. As an example, we know that manufacturing is done in Canada on the RX 330. However, most of this product originates from Japan. In addition, although most Camrys are built in Kentucky; some (a very tiny portion) come from Japan. This site just tells us about manufacturing capabilities, but it does not tell us anything about where most of the product is built. Most Corollas originate from Fremont, the Nummi Plant, and not from Canada.
In any event, as you correctly indicated, Toyota changes its mix. My only point was citing some of the best plants Toyota had and comparing it to the Georgetown. I will like to know how this plant measures up to the other plants in North America and Japan.
#7576 of 14965 Re: Avalons and Toyota Georgetown Quality [greenbelt]
Jul 26, 2005 (6:54 am)
Another interesting tidbit is the JD Power problems per vehicles. Toyota's have increased year over year in this area, which is disappointing. As I mentioned previously, if there any problems with the Avalon, it could be just due to the fact that the vehicle is new as CR indicated in April. A bigger problem, I think, is due to the fact that the manufacturers need to cut cost in order to hold the line on pricing. Right now, the industry is too competitive and pricing is definetly heading down. In order to be competitive, the manufacturer must cut costs and restoring to questionable suppliers.
#7577 of 14965 Re: Rain Sensing Wipers - more on the mystery... [fin]
Jul 26, 2005 (7:37 am)
My Buick and BMW auto wipers sent a "signal", the nature of which I've forgotten, but if any of the signal were reflected back to the sender by rain drops the wipers activated. The more reflection the faster the operation. To keep the wipers from running when you start the car keep the wiper switch in the OFF posution.
#7578 of 14965 Re: Tires and Lousy Toyota Dealers [tony17]
Jul 26, 2005 (7:38 am)
Tony, let me know what they say.
#7579 of 14965 Re: Rain Sensing Wipers - more on the mystery... [limiteddriver]
Jul 26, 2005 (8:31 am)
I believe the part of the infrared beam is reflected from the glass due to the difference in glass and air when it reaches the outer surface of the windshield. When there is water on the outside the glass, the infrared continues on and less is reflected. This lower reflection of the infrared beam turns on the wiper.