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Re: Toyota reliability [ryandse] by havalongavalon
May 02, 2005 (10:01 pm)
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Replying to: ryandse (May 02, 2005 7:43 pm)

ryandse,
 
The Forum called Toyota Prius Owners: Problems & Solutions has over 200 entries that describe a great variety of bizzare problems, ranging in consequences from trivial to potentially disastrous. These problems often seem to be hard to diagnose, sometimes one-of-a-kind, not really systematic. When problems can be shown to be unique to a single car, the Lemon Law may apply and this has in fact been reported, for example, in post #128 who reported in Feb 2005 that:
 
"I had a 2004 Prius for 6 months. I had a problem with the accelerator assembly. Toyota tried to fix it 5 times. I had to invoke the lemon law. Symptoms: As a accident evasive action I had to change lanes abruptly and accelerate full to go with the flow of traffic in the left lane. There would be a "Thump" and the acceleration would go the power of "IDLE" speed. This nearly caused two accidents as the car behind me did not see any brake lights but I was effectively braking hard. Once this happened the car would only go a maximum of 37 MPH! Toyota says the "codes" indicate the accelerator was in an "invalid position"! I checked all the forums and no one else had ever reported this problem. As a result of the lemon law I will be receiving a new 2005 Prius next week and of course will try "the maneuver" before accepting delivery.It seems to me that this would have come up with many other Prius drivers but since there was no reference in any forum I feel confident that it was truly just a lemon car. Other than this the Prius is my favorite car ever!!!!!!! 44-48 MPG average."
 
If you read a number of these posts you will get the picture that although owners love their Prii, many have been putting up with very quirky behaviors and I would imagine that other owners who have been problem-free but are well-informed must feel a bit aprehensive about sudden problems that could come up at any time, such as a total loss of power in the middle of the freeway, which has been reported by some.
 
Sorry to bring up this kind of news, but it does point out that even the most solid companies such as Toyota do run into troubles when they take the lead on innovation and bring out truly revolutionary new technologies, as with Prius.
 
Best,
 
havalongavalon
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Re: Color of Parking Sensors [ryandse] by havalongavalon
May 02, 2005 (10:09 pm)
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Replying to: ryandse (May 02, 2005 9:59 pm)

I've read in other forums about a back up sensor system that doesn't have to be visible, which means you don't have to drill any holes, or have the wrong colors. It's put behind the bumper, and the warning unit was mounted under the rear deck, where the speakers are housed.
  
Is this the one you are referring to? Would anyone happen to have any links for more information on this or any competing products?.

 
Some weeks ago johni posted leads to an aftermarket system that he installed himself, and last week I installed a similar system, with great results. If you search this discussion for our nicknames and "sensors" you should quickly find these posts.
 
havalongavalon
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Re: MotorWeek 05 Avalon Review... [njny] by paul_p
May 02, 2005 (10:13 pm)
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Replying to: njny (May 02, 2005 7:34 am)

njny, thanks for posting that review link.
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Hesitation [pricecutter] by havalongavalon
May 02, 2005 (10:19 pm)
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Replying to: pricecutter (May 02, 2005 6:43 pm)

pricecutter, thanks for reminding me in post #5159:
 
I do think hesitation should be put on the list. Unlike my previous
Avalon, I notice considerable pronounced shifting of gears at different speeds:
when stopping after a fast speed and starting to move forward again; when changing cruise control to a faster speed going uphill. I haven't a clue of whether these should be considered problems or simply a function of the new higher horsepower engine.

 
ROGER. Will do. By the way, I have noticed something similar: occasionally, when stopping after a fast speed and starting to move forward again, uphill, it seems to skip a gear because the engine revs up too much for the intended effort.
 
Maybe we can have others who have noticed hesitation to contribute a more concise description? (I prefer to enter one-line descriptions in a Table...)
 
Thanks,
 
havalongavalon
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Re: Color of Parking Sensors [havalongavalon] by ryandse
May 03, 2005 (12:07 am)
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Replying to: havalongavalon (May 02, 2005 10:09 pm)

Some weeks ago johni posted leads to an aftermarket system that he installed himself, and last week I installed a similar system, with great results. If you search this discussion for our nicknames and "sensors" you should quickly find these posts.
 
Ok, I just did a search and came up with message #4143. I see the mention of Awell Logistics Marketing (which is apparently the company that makes the sensor). Strangely enough, google just isn't finding anything on it. Perhaps I need to look for it in RealSpace: so where did you purchase it? Thanks!
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various subjects: by justgreat47
May 03, 2005 (1:27 am)
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i don't own an avalon but will offer some obervations that might apply to the comments made regarding the transmission shifting patterns, especially during deceleration: a standard "dumb" transmision (one without a prcoessor hooked up to it's shift controls) will stay in the higher gear when decelerating; once the throttle is applied there might be a hesitation (especially if the throttle input is severe enough to warrant a downshift. it sounds to me, as if the avalon's 5 speed is an adaptive transmission or "smart" tranny. that's why some of you have complained about a drag on the engine under deceleration: the transmission is downshifting as you slow, getting ready for the moment when you want to accelerate; there will be no delay when you do step on the gas.
 
also, i don't remember seeing anything about the throttle linkage on the 05 avalon, but i suspect that it's drive by wire: no cable between the gas pedal and the fuel injection: it's done the the engine management processor and there are very stringent parameters about how much throttle input the processor will alllow, especially when the engine is cold. this is all done in the name of clean air and lower pollutants. lots of new car owners have complained of slow response or hesitation from a stop when accelerating: acuras, bmw's...anybody with the drive by wire...it's the nature of the beast, i'm afraid. jackg 90seville 96k
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Re: various subjects: [justgreat47] by mikes.
May 03, 2005 (1:54 am)
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Replying to: justgreat47 (May 03, 2005 1:27 am)

The 05 Avalon IS a drive by wire car.
 
I've noticed several time now that when going downhill with the cruise control on that the car will slow itself.
 
MikeS.
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Posting pictures by pat HOST
May 03, 2005 (3:26 am)
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No, you can't copy an image and paste it directly into the post box. That might seem to you to work if the image is on your computer, but you are the only one who will be able to see it.
 
The image has to be stored somewhere on the web. You start by clicking on the "Img" button, then you type or paste the address of the picture (http://www.mywebpage.com/mypics/avalon.jpg for example) and then you click the same "Img" button one more time.
 
That will cause the "avalon.jpg" picture stored on the "mypics" page of "www.mywebpage.com" to display in your message for all to see.
 
Hope this helps.
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Parking Sensors - Help havalongavalo-Johni by dan41
May 03, 2005 (3:49 am)
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I've done some research and now know there there are a ton of manufactures or distributors for backup sensors. I am considering the Awell Logistics AW-10B$
(4 back-up sensors - no display) and I would like to get some feedback on the accuracy and reliability of this product before I purchase. Awell also offer sensors in colors and I am thinking "white" to blend with my Blizzard Pear bumper. I am recovering from back surgery, so I will have the unit professionally installed. Any feedback on this product or another one would be appreciated.
 
Regards: Dan
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mud flaps by jordan7
May 03, 2005 (4:38 am)
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I have purchased the mud flaps for my Limited, Titanium Avalon. Since you can only obtain them in black (except port installed in the SE region) I have been told the following:
 
Purchase the black mud flaps
 
Clean them with rubbing alcohol
 
Spray the side facing the body (of course prior to installation) with primer used for bumpers (It has flexibility)
 
Spray with bumper paint the color that matches body of your car. While it will not be exact, it will be better than black.
 
I am told that this will be satisfactory and should not peel or chip. The paint can be purchased at any auto parts store.

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