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#5073 of 14963 From an atypical potential future Avalon-owner
May 01, 2005 (12:38 am)
First off, I would like to start with a confession -- actually make that two confessions.
The first one being that I have been keeping my eye on this forum for at least a month, as I have been doing some extensive research on various sedans on the market.
Secondly, being someone who has managed to narrow my choices almost exclusively
down to the new 2005 release of Toyota's flagship sedan: I bear absolutely no
resemblance to Toyota's projected demographic for Avalon owners. Not only am I a
single 24 year old software engineer, but if I decide on the Toyota Avalon Limited, it will
be my first car.
This is by no means an apologetic confession, as it is a source of wonderment for me.
Is it indeed a fluke for someone of my category to favor automobiles with a luxurious
interior, attractive -- yet tasteful styling, exceptional performance that will allow me to
safely navigate through Silicon Valley traffic, world-class reliability, and a voluminous
cabin that isolates it's occupants from the harshness and noise of the outside?
If so, then Toyota is to blame. Thanks to their decision to drop in a 280 HP demon, throw in enough cool electronic toys (albeit useful ones) to make a software geek like me go "Ga-Ga", and transplant a bloated version of the Lexus LS interior into their new Avalon, I simply see no point in continuing my original pursuit of interest: the 2006 Lexus GS.
Yes, the GS is a stunning sight (I've already seen several roaming about). And the
interior is a work of art. But is the extra "sportiness" truly worth the loss of cabin space, and the need to pay a king's random for the many options that are actually standard on the Avalon Limited? To give everyone an idea, the price-tag for adding Ventilated front seats, a rear-window sunshade and powered sun-roof (which are all standard on the Avalon Limited) to a base-line Lexus GS 300 is $1,410.
Once added with all the other options I want, we are talking about a final sticker-price at over $10k more than a comparably equipped Toyota Avalon. Granted, the Lexus badge is the culprit here. But, every other car that I have brought into consideration has their share of shortcomings:
1.) First we have the Infiniti G35, which looks attractive on the outside, and has a handsome feature-set. But, If it weren't for the bizarre retro/futuristic interior and its sub-par gas mileage, It would be a strong contender.
2.) Then there is the Acura TL. Inside it looks great, in many ways much like the Lexus GS, in fact. Yes it has the performance, but if the sportiness requires that I have to content with having my drink splashing all-over-the place when I pass over a road-bump and for road noise to penetrate from the outside, then I'm not interested. Besides, I never cared for the front-styling of Hondas/Acuras.
2.) How about the Audi A4? If it weren't for some reports I've found indicating that Audi, as a company, have been showing improvements in the reliability of their vehicles: I wouldn't even have gave them a thought. Well, after witnessing my legs being sandwiched between the front and rear seats: I wont be giving them a second thought.
So, here I am, finding myself almost exclusively interested in a car that is supposedly intended for folks three times my age. And having parents that own a 1997 Mercury Sable Wagon (which is actually wider and longer than the Avalon), I am baffled by the reviews that write-off the 2005 Avalon as an obese sedan with no spirit. When I took the Avalon for a spin: let me tell you, I was more than satisfied with the growl that the engine made as we darted out of the dealership.
For those of you that currently do, or will, own the new 2005 Avalon Limited, and fit the demographic: kudos on making a wise decision to select what appears to be a brilliant piece of engineering. As for someone who has been enslaved by Mass transit for four
years, I'm not about to wait another 40 years for the car that I truly want.
#5074 of 14963 Oil change how to reset the computer
May 01, 2005 (3:13 am)
Just purchased a new Avalon 2005 XLS and found that it will take an oil filter cartridge and has to have the computer reset when the oil is changed. My Chevy truck has to have the computer reset after each change and the manual says how to do it. The toyota manual does not. Anyone know how to reset the computer after an oil change?
#5075 of 14963 Re: The Emperor has no Clothes [bwia]
May 01, 2005 (3:16 am)
Everyone has their own ideas & tastes. That's why there are so many flavors, shapes & colors of foods and things.
#5076 of 14963 Re: New Avalon Photos [photoquests]
May 01, 2005 (4:44 am)
photoquests, your photo of your Blizzard Pearl Avalon Limited is AWESOME!!! I love everything about your photo(the background, trees, sky, and etc.). Your Avalon is a movie star, and is definitely the star of this photo.
#5077 of 14963 Re: From an atypical potential future Avalon-owner [ryandse]
May 01, 2005 (5:40 am)
Ryandse: Very well said. I too do not fit the standard demographic for "Toyota's Buick." Some people will continue their negative campaign concerning the Avalon and that's ok with me. I too might be a little spiteful if I had paid much more for a lessor car. Let's take it easy on them guys. lol
When I first started my new car search, the Avalon didn't even cross my mind!! I actually only found out about the new redesign when I went into the dealer to to test drive a Camry! As I sat in the Camry to see what it was like, I couldn't peal my eyes off the silver car next to me. Why is there a Lexus on the Toyota lot? What is that sexy car? I raced through the Camry test drive so I get to driving the new Avalon!
I have gotten looks and comments from every demographic out there. Yesterday a kid (18 or so) held up traffic behind him while he asked me about it. One of my clients won't meet me at properties anymore. He insists that I pick him up. I bought the Avalon because I needed a certain wow factor for my clients. In the end, I couldn't be happier with my decision. To anyone who doesn't like the looks of the new Avalon, come check out my Phantom Grey Touring. If you still don't like it, seek therapy.
#5078 of 14963 Re: Things that bother me. [alphawolf]
May 01, 2005 (6:12 am)
I also live in south Florida, and have found all dealers have marked up the sticker from 3-5k. After haggling the best anyone would do was actual sticker. I would love to know the name of the dealer you bought from. I also am looking at a LTD.
#5079 of 14963 I apreciated
May 01, 2005 (6:44 am)
hello all! i just want to thanks to edmomds and everybody at this forums,like you can see i`m from dominican republic, i was not a toyota fan,but we had a 02 toyota camry for my wife, because toyota is one of the premium resale car around here, anyway i have seen all yours post in the last 3 mouth more less,we bout toyota avalon LTD for her 2 mouth ago and wednesday i`m coming to get it ,is about 3 weeks is in the country ,but for costum buracratic reasons we have to wait ,i`m more impatient to get it than my wife,because i read this forums and she really doesn`t know much about cars,but she likes good ones , who doesn`t? ,sa far tha i c an see is great car botton line ,but if think how much it cost there become one of the greatest car per price in all time not daub!!! and i have a a great bmw x5 that means i know a litlle bit what i`m talking about,i was scare to post because my english, sorry for that, but did want to post to contribute a litle bit if you think so and you guys want to know something about the car from this place of the erth , again thanks all very much, excuseme my english, and PAT i need some suport here ,but it is whith my english, .
#5080 of 14963 Re: From an atypical potential future Avalon-owner [agent]
May 01, 2005 (6:52 am)
Hi agent, agent here as well. I'm considering the Gray in either the Touring or the XLS. Did not having the VSC or heated seats concern you at all? Especially the VSC. That's my hesitation with the Touring.
#5081 of 14963 Re: Avalon Delivery Checklist [havalongavalon]
May 01, 2005 (6:56 am)
Okay, so maybe I am the only owner that has soap and water accumulate behind the plastic on the tail lights when I wash the car....then, you get the annoying drip down the bumper for several hours, so you wipe and wipe and wipe. Please tell me I am not alone on this one.
#5082 of 14963 Re: From an atypical potential future Avalon-owner [ccrider]
May 01, 2005 (7:04 am)
CCrider: That's a personal choice. At first I wanted the VSC but after thinking about it and tossing and turning over it, I decided that the cost factor wasn't justified for me. I love the Touring suspension, the HID lights you don't get with the XLS, and the rims that seem to be made for and match the Phantom Grey. If the Touring was offered with VSC I would have gotten it but it's not so I didn't. I spent a LONG time making my decision and now that I have it, I couldn't be happier. I've never had VSC before so I think I can go a few more years without.
Heated seats are nice but when your car payment is $536/mth (a $220 jump for me) my frugal self will again continue to live without.
Oh and one more thing. You can't lay down rubber with VSC. What good is 280hp if you can't peel out?