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#3367 of 14965 Re: Break-In Period [burl]
Mar 23, 2005 (6:44 am)
Sorry to disagree with you on this. Toyota has stated in their owner's manuals for quite sometime and as far back as model year 1997 that oil changes are to be performed at 5000 mile or 7500 mile intervals. If you do this and follow the manufacturer's recommendation and later have a problem with the engine than it's the manufacturer's fault and not yours. The sludge "problem" you are referring to has been thoroughly discussed in these forums. In my experience the cars that we had come back to our dealership for sludged engines were cars that the customers did not follow the recommended oil change schedules. In one instance we had an 98 Avalon with 25,000 miles plus that still had the original oil filter and the oil had never been changed. The valve covers were removed from the engine and you could literally scoop the sluded oil as if it was pudding. More often than not these sludge engines were traced to owner neglect as the ones that followed the manufacturer's recommended maintenance schedule have had no problems. How long did you sell Toyota's?
#3368 of 14965 Re: Break-In Period [chipmunk47]
Mar 23, 2005 (6:56 am)
Good morning, Chipmunk.
A good mechanic friend once demonstrated to me the time that engine bearings (mains and camshaft) run dry during initial cranking after oil change. That is, before the oil pump fills the empty filter and oil galleries, and pressurizes the system. Each startup, as I recall, takes 1 to 2 full seconds. During this time, the bearings run "dry"; that is, without oil pressure, and (theoretically) with metal-to-metal contact between journal steel and bearing babbit. This doesn't sound like a lot of time, but when one multiplies 2 seconds by the number of oil & filter changes in the life of the car, it can add up. For example, if you drive 18,000 miles during the first year of your Avalon, you'll have 5 changes based on 3,000 mile intervals; and the engine will run dry, cumulatively, for 10 seconds. 10 seconds dry running time does not sound so insignificant. Over 60,000 miles, at 3,000 intervals, it will have run dry 38 seconds! If your're a worry wart, you may lose sleep thinking you've been chewing away the babbit of your journal bearings all those years slavishly following your Dad's advice about 3,000 mile oil changes.
I'm a first-time Toyota (05 Avalon) owner, and don't know if it's possible to do this, but pre-filling the filter with oil before installation is a trick that small block Chevy owners use to minimize dry startup period. It's easy to do w/Chevy's, as the filter is screwed into the block upside down. Is it possible to do this on the 3.5 liter Toyota motor? If so, Mr. (Ms.?)Chipmunk, we can all be in cogniscenti oil change heaven!
#3369 of 14965 Re: an illuminating question [iflyx5]
Mar 23, 2005 (8:47 am)
I had the same problem with my homelink not be illuminated. I have two doors to operate and there is a light in the center for mirror. I programm the right door on the right side of the light and the other door to the left. It's worked out ok, so far.
#3370 of 14965 Re: Factory Delivery Time?? [marcom]
Mar 23, 2005 (8:56 am)
Thanks, Marcom....I'm across the country in Pendleton, Oregon and ordered a Silver Pine (green) Limited w/VSC on March 19th. In my former life "way back", I was an International Harvester truck dealer..and a factory "sold" order took precidence over "stock" orders. I just don't understand the present Toyota factory ordering system. My dealer told me it may take up to 90 days to receive this sold order and he has absolutely no control over this order.
I was hoping that someone might have some ideas on how the dealer might place a priority on sold orders.
#3371 of 14965 A 'BUMMER' from Toyota
Mar 23, 2005 (10:13 am)
Toyota Corp's decision to re-introduce the '06 Avalon the first week of August -- Well, put it mildly will cost the early birds, dearly! (I am one of them.)
I would have never bought the '05 version knowing that in 4 mos. I could have the new improved '06.
So as you drive those new Limiteds from the dealership -- Know very well your depreciation costs have doubled!
What a BUMMER!
#3372 of 14965 Re: Factory Delivery Time?? [wesg]
Mar 23, 2005 (10:28 am)
I "ordered" my Limited on 18 February; my salesman "preferenced" the equipment/model I wanted out of their upcoming allocation. He said he added an "already sold" code to move it to the head of the line. Even so, the build date I just received is 4 April (47 days), so arrival at the dealership will be something like 60 days.
#3373 of 14965 Re: A 'BUMMER' from Toyota [clipper1]
Mar 23, 2005 (10:34 am)
Oh well. I bought my 95 Maxima SE (the first year of a re-design) in May 1995; typically the 1996 models would have come out 4-5 months later. 10 years later that doesn't seem like such a big deal as I get ready to trade it in; even if I don't keep my new (not yet received) Avalon more than 5 years, the effect of that short model year will lessen with time. The people who trade every 2-3 years may be more upset, but any time you buy a new car after January 1st, you are "shorting" yourself a little in terms of residual value. Conversely, your potential trade-in is worth more if you don't wait for the newer models. There's no one right answer.
#3374 of 14965 Re: Factory Delivery Time?? [wesg]
Mar 23, 2005 (10:53 am)
I live in the Washington, DC-Maryland area and special ordered my Limited on Feb 21. I picked up my car on March 19th. I was surprised when the salesman called and said it was in and exactly the way I had special ordered it. I am not sure if the dealer had placed any type of priority on it or if that is even possible.
#3375 of 14965 Re: Picture of bumper guards [just me]
Mar 23, 2005 (11:33 am)
Just me, the link shows several different styles, which did you get?
#3376 of 14965 Re: A 'BUMMER' from Toyota [clipper1]
Mar 23, 2005 (11:34 am)
Relax, it seems like the 06 will be virtually the same car as the 05. No change whatsoever.