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Toyota Avalon, Sedan
#3070 of 14965 Re: Avalon is great but not perfect [yanker]
Mar 18, 2005 (8:55 am)
Wow. Wow. I had to say this twice. I thought I was the king of negativity, but I guess not. Although, my experience with both Honda and now Toyota is similar to yours, it is only based on two cars, one a very nice 90 Honda Civic EX and now the 02 Avalon. Both brands have been very very reliable. The Honda car's fit and finish in comparison to the Avalon I bought, was superior as was the handling. They are both easy to maintain. I did have a negative experience with the dealership as well as corporate HQ where both bounced me back to each other and wasted their time and mine.
Does the new one has overly expensive tires I do not know about??? Please elaborate. There are 16/17" wheels now, so replacement tires are going to be expensive. Usually Toyota places good, not great tires on the vehicle. Much of the technology is useless to me, especially for the price, but some really enjoy it....until the new technology comes along or until it breaks. But. the silver lining is that power windows, power steering, etc etc. would not have come along unless some of the manufacturers stepped out and tried it, so it has got to come out. Not all of us have to buy it though.
I did like the fact that with Honda, that more of the options and accessories where dealership installed and not packaged, so you could get more a la carte, unlike Toyota. That is the reason I passed up the XLS, with no regrets in 2002.
#3071 of 14965 Re: Is the Avalon still a Grampa car? [williamt]
Mar 18, 2005 (8:56 am)
I'm 29 & have ordered a Touring ed. 05 Avalon. The Black leather & polished chrome look inside suit me perfectly. The luxury options (reclining back seats, the 280 hp, power-everything) are great.
The only thing "older" I would say is the color scheme of the XLS/Limited with the Silver, Light colored seats & the light wood accents, it did strike me as looking like "grandma" style. This is one reason I went with the Touring with all the upgrades available.
#3072 of 14965 Re: Avalon Adventure [lamikel]
Mar 18, 2005 (8:57 am)
Please can you give us an idea of how the Laser cruise differs from the regular cruise control, and its advantages and disadvantages. Since I believe it is in a package, it is difficult to put a price on that difference.
It is better for instance in freeway driving when it is crowded or someone cuts into your lane too fast??? That would be a good thing if it reacted slowly to this.
#3073 of 14965 Re: Good Deals are Out There [groza]
Mar 18, 2005 (9:02 am)
I got a great deal at Maroone in Davie. Earl Stewart was towards the bottom of my list on pricing even though they don't have any dealer fees. When I mentioned that I had at least a half dozen quotes better than theirs they wished me luck and hung up. It seems many of these dealerships are in it for the one-shot deal. Others treat you like a life-time customer.
#3074 of 14965 Re: Potential buyer question [badgerfan]
Mar 18, 2005 (9:02 am)
Your post about the smaller trunk is my feeling exactly. We have no travelling children but still enjoy the generous trunk size on the '03 XL. It appears Toyota has reduced the trunk size and the towing capacity of the 2005 Avalon as a trade off for gains in other areas. Exactly what gains, I am not sure. To Toyota, the target market for the car can live with the lesser capacities and will still buy. While I feel somewhat left out here, if you follow this forum, the overall car is an obvious winner.
#3075 of 14965 Dynamic Laser Cruise and Exterior Colors
Mar 18, 2005 (9:11 am)
I noticed a lot of you are purchasing Limiteds with Dynamic Laser Cruise Control. Since the Dynamic Laser housing is black and throws the symmetry off the fog lamp section, Toyota should have placed a dummy DL on the other side to keep the symmetry. I'm thinking, if I get a Limited it would probably be better to get a Black one, for those of you who have DLC and your exterior color is Black or not Black, please give me your thoughts. Thanks.
#3076 of 14965 Comparing to Lexus ES 330
Mar 18, 2005 (9:17 am)
The first car I test drove when looking to replace my E320 Mercedes was the Lexus ES330. The LS 430 is way too expensive to use as a business car. The ES330 is a beautiful car in terms of its finish and interior. But I was disappointed when I drove it. The ride wasn't as smooth, there was a lot more road noise, and the ambient noise was much more than I am used to. Having rented Camrys, the only difference is the dressed up interior, slightly quieter, and a Lexus nameplate. The next day I drove the Avalon. It is, in my opinion, a far better value. First, the ride quality and quiet are far superior to the ES 330. The Avalon is also a larger car, more on a par with the LS 430 Lexus. The Avalon has more power and it's very noticeable. I must admit that I do not like the silver plastic doors all over the console and dash. But ride is what is important to me. I ordered the Limited and it has all the toys you get on the Big Lexus. I've traded the status nameplate for a better value. I'll let you know if it lives up to my expectations when I take delivery around mid-April.
#3077 of 14965 Re: Waiting for 06 model [gschultz3]
Mar 18, 2005 (9:34 am)
"I'd guess Toyota felt that VSC would take away some of the sporty handling characteristics of the Touring model."
Nope, that's not it. Plenty of cars far sportier than any Avalon have VSC. It generally comes with a defeat switch so you can still spin your tires on takeoff if you're so inclined.
Not making VSC an option on XL and Touring was strictly a marketing price/feature mix decision, probably intended to help steer early buyers to the highest profit models. And regardless of what any CSR is telling people right now, I bet they will change this way before they redesign the car.
#3078 of 14965 Re: XM Tuner Installation [wesg]
Mar 18, 2005 (9:36 am)
I have an XM Delphi unit with a VSM (Vehicle Specific Mount) for the Avalon 02. The unit can be takin out of my Avalon, hooked up to my home stereo, and also a portable Boombox. No reason why two VSM could not be hooked up by a competent automotive electrician for you to enjoy SAT radio.
#3079 of 14965 Re: Potential buyer question [agent]
Mar 18, 2005 (9:40 am)
That is exactly how I purchase cars. Cash, as I did in 02. Again, I am an oddball but that is how I do. You shoulda seen the look on their faces. Price LESS.