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#31 of 14780 2005 Avalon--any concrete info? by pmcb48 Nov 23, 2003 (7:41 pm)
I have been frustrated finding anything out about the 2005 Avalon except tantalizing little snippets from people quoting this or that industry insider. Dealers are no help; with the G35, I knew more from boards like this than the dealers were willing to discuss or admit.     I guess I'll just have to keep checking this site and hope that the rumors of a 5-speed auto transmission, 3.3 L V6, and 230 HP are true, not to mention improved styling.
#33 of 14780 The Avalon had better....... by rutledge1 Dec 03, 2003 (11:02 am)
One of the cars that will give the Avalon a run for its money is the Kia Amanti. The Amanti will have a lot to offer and will be under $30,000 fully loaded, for example: one touch up/down windows for the front and the rear, heated seat options for the front and the rear, one touch open/close sunroof, heated outside mirrors, and whole bunch of others, and you can get all of that for about $28,000. If the 2005 Avalon is going to be as nice as I hear it is supposed to be, that they would be well served to offer the same options and features found in the Amanti. If Toyota can't go toe to toe with Kia, then something is terribly wrong
#34 of 14780 2005 Avalon by seajay63 Dec 03, 2003 (12:24 pm)
pmcb84   Talk about being frustrated trying to find out information about the 2005 Avalon, I started back in May 2003 trying to find information on the changes for 2004. Imagine my shock to find out that steveB84 was right when he posted "no changes for Avalon in 2004 model". I could not believe it until I saw it with my own eyes. I still have not bought one. Now hunting info on the 2005 like everyone here. The bench seat is the option most important to me and my wife. I will buy a 2005 if I can get it with the bench seat. If not I will try to find a 2004 XLS the way I want it if they are still around. I too am hoping some one will post reliable 2005 Avalon information here.
#35 of 14780 Detroit Auto Show in January? by jeff186 Dec 03, 2003 (4:58 pm)
Seajay, we're all feeling that frustration about the lack of info for a new model less than a year away. I'm hoping the '05 Av gets unveiled at the January auto show in Detroit, though the roster of cars for that show is not yet available.
#36 of 14780 How come its so hard by carguy58 Dec 04, 2003 (10:08 am)
to find spy shots of an Avalon? When the Camry was redesigned Toyota I don't think kept the spy photo's a secret now like they are doing now with the 05 Avalon.
#37 of 14780 no by alpha01 Dec 04, 2003 (10:29 am)
The Camry redesign was a well kept secret. Pics and confirmed information only leaked out the April before the September official launch.   ~alpha
#38 of 14780 2 reasons for not revealing the 2005 Avalon...yet by sadlermd Dec 06, 2003 (7:29 am)
1. May hurt 2003 Avalon sales. 2. Its another styling dud from Toyota.   Personally, I am praying its number 1!   I have been a Toyota owner for 15+ years. My wife and I each drive Camry's (97 and 01). But recently, I have had nightmares where a day came that Toyota had finally given their top of the line car a top of the line style! "Toyota Quality" and "World-Class Style" could share the same sentence! And that car was in our driveway! Then, of course, I wake up and realize it was just a dream. To be fair, the Avalon is not a bad car, the comfort and conveniences are unquestionably compelling, but its styling simply puzzles. In my opinion, the current Avalon would be far more popular had they went a little further with the application of the Lexus GS styling cues. It appears they started with the GS silhouette, then, in an attempt to avoid being a blatant copy, chose to differentiate the two by giving Avalon the wide mouth / narrow body / flat roof / small wheels look. I believe that decision totally polarized the Avalon market. People seem to either love it or hate it. For the sake of appeasement, Toyota could have at *least* offered some appearance package upgrades (chrome wheels, better paint, etc.). Instead they seem determined to hold this notion that the buyers in the Avalon market have no sense of style. I think they call it "Japanese Buick" - the idea that old people just want to get from "A" to "B" and could care less about what the car looks like. I think the Cadillac Sedan de Ville blows that theory right out of the water. The average Cadillac buyer is at least the same age if not older than the average Avalon buyer. But yet, Sedan de Ville offers a huge number of appearance enhancing options that I assume attempts to address the desires of their market. I believe that when Americans make top line purchase decisions, a high percentage of us are strongly influenced by appearance. Oh well, as we all know, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder...and maybe Toyota will consider some fresh eyes around their design offices.
#39 of 14780 Avalon Styling by bwia Dec 06, 2003 (9:39 am)
The styling of the Avalon, (Version to 2.0 - 2.04) is chameleon like. Up close the car looks very nice and refined. But when in motion especially from the rear the car looks like a big box on wheels.   I guess this is the design theme for the new Toyota since the Corolla is a petit version of the Avalon. For 2005 I believe it will be more of the same. I am still waiting though.
#40 of 14780 redesigned AV by alpha01 Dec 06, 2003 (9:40 am)
Another styling dud from Toyota? Think most of Toyotas redesigned vehicles of late are nicely styled. The Camry looks great, if not in LE trim with those ugly wheelcovers, definitely in SE and XLE trim with the alloys. The Corolla is sharp, the Solara is distinctive and upscale....   I agree that the 2000-2004 Avalon is a bit odd in its proportions, though, and I hope the redesign is at least somewhat eye-catching.   ~alpha

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