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#1665 of 14965 Mackabee...and I WISH I didn't have an Altima....
Feb 16, 2005 (8:27 pm)
I didn't realize that you were sick until after reading all these posts!
I surely wish you the best with your recovery, because you were such a BIG HELP for me when I was looking at the Camrys back in 2002.
I can't think of a more informed salesperson in the world. Thanks for all that you do on these boards.
Even though I didn't buy the Camry, I am just grateful for ppl on these boards like you and Alpha...
Anyway, I wish you a speedy recovery and I know you will be fine.
On other topic.
I went out this evening and took a REALLY good and long look at the new Avalon.
This particular dealership had about three on the lot (Two XLS models and 1 XL) I gotta say that I was REALLY impressed with the XL for some reason. It looks really nice in person.
Now, my car, the Altima, is pretty big IMO, but this new Avalon is HUGE. Styling looks really really nice though.
I think if I didn't have my Altima, I'd be looking into a Touring model or perhaps an XLS model. I just hate the fact that you can't get heated seats on the Touring.
Either way, by the time I get my degree from Clemson (God willing), I'll be working for Toyota anyway...and I'll be able to scope one up.
I was really impressed with the interior materials and the overall design of the dashboard. As a big Nissan fan, I think Toyota has it all over Nissan as far as interior quality is concerned.
Even the basic XL model had a nice "silver" finished trim that was downright impressive.
So in a couple of years I'll be 22 and I'll be looking again...if the next Altima doesn't do it for me, the Avalon will definately be on my list.
Its a LOT of car for a good price IMO.
#1666 of 14965 Leasing a 2005 Avalon
Feb 16, 2005 (8:51 pm)
Has anyone leased a new Avalon instead of buying. If you did, what kind of lease payments can we expect?
#1667 of 14965 Re: Nav system [mackabee]
Feb 17, 2005 (9:07 am)
Hi Mackabee. I agree with you on the Bluetooth and the tire pressure indicator, but some people get obsessed with something and can't let go because it's something they had before and would buy something lacking other things as long as they had these two. I suppose we can always find something to criticize and nit-pick if we want to. I myself looked at the Avalon and as a former owner of three of them, the 2004 that I recently sold, I looked at the 2005 and on a scale put down what they took away and gave back. They gave back so much more starting with a more powerful engine that alone could have increased the price by so much more but didn't. The carpeting on the back rear ledge being replaced by another smoother material making it so much easier for me to clean was mentioned as a criticism here, when I think personally it's much more refined this way. The only thing I didn't understand and maybe it's a criticism, is that the brochure from a marketing standpoint could have done so much more, yet they didn't point out things like the fact that the car is tighter and stronger etc. Being the flagship and former marketing sales executive I was disappointed in the brochure, but smarter heads prevail then mine and maybe they had a reason and will juice it up for 2006? I wonder if anything was mentioned about that Mac? Now that said, it certainly wasn't any reason for me not to buy the car which I did and am extremely happy with it. I feel I finally have a Lexus quality 430 but saved thousands, in fact could buy two Avalons for what the Lexus would have cost me, which in a way tells you how people will by a name plate for status. I always wondered about that when people by the 300 class Mercedes that has no oomph, but they have status so they think and people will look and say wow. I would rather look at my bank account and say wow, and know I am driving a much better car. Anyway thats how the world spins, all things for all people, and everyone happy doing it their way. I HOPE YOUR DAY IS AN EASY ONE MY FRIEND.
#1668 of 14965 Re: Nav system [just me]
Feb 17, 2005 (10:52 am)
justme, I love your quotes:
...all things for all people, and everyone happy doing it their way.
I feel I finally have a Lexus quality 430 but saved thousands...
I'm the person who wouldn't buy the 2005 Avalon because of Bluetooth and TPMS feature is not offered. If those features were offered, I would also be able to say "I feel I finally have a Lexus quality 430...", because those features are offered on a Lexus LS430. Those features are my requirements for my next car, everyone has different requirements, and those are mines.
Hopefully those features will be offered on the 2006 version, those are additional safety features I would like to have.
#1669 of 14965 Re: Nav system [teereeves]
Feb 17, 2005 (11:35 am)
I understand how you feel and certainly the choice is yours. All I would say is if a name plate isn't important to you, then don't spend another 30 thousand for the Lexus for those two features that maybe you might in the after market for a lot less you might be able to get installed. Of course once again it's not for me or anyone to tell you what to do and you don't need any advice from me. You know what you want and what your needs are and I respect that and you. Good Luck.
#1670 of 14965 What's in store for the 2006 Avalon?
by vette '67
Feb 17, 2005 (11:36 am)
I'm thinking about holding-off an Avalon purchase until the 2006 model. In general, I like the new model, but, as others have commented, there's room for improvements and the correcting of some oversights. Does anyone know when the '06 will appear? What's Toyota's past record on improvements for a 'second' year production? Does Toyota listen to criticisms on their initial offerings? What sort of changes may one expect? Thanks for your thoughts.
#1671 of 14965 Re: What's in store for the 2006 Avalon? [vette '67]
Feb 17, 2005 (11:52 am)
It'd probably have a few cosmetic changes. Don't expect anything major considering the car is newly redesigned and that it just debuted in the 2nd quarter of the model year (compared to other '05 models that came on October '04).
Feb 17, 2005 (12:42 pm)
From the article in post 1638 link, it already appears new thinking which could be seen even earlier than 2006. Below is a cut and paste from that link..
One decision for which Toyota should be spanked is its refusal to offer electronic stability control (which it calls Vehicle Stability Control or VSC) on all the models. Instead, it is only available on the two more expensive models, the XLS and Limited
During a media preview here, Toyota frankly didn't have a clear excuse for denying its less-wealthy owners that safety equipment, but the company suggested that the decision could change.
#1673 of 14965 Vsc and Track on Touring
Feb 17, 2005 (12:57 pm)
I asked our district reps that same question on Tuesday at the training and I did not get a straight answer. I would guess that it will be offered later in the model year. If enough people complain and ask for it Toyota will listen. Look what happened with the current 4runner. When it first came out it hade the hideous gray overfenders and cladding on SR5's and Sport edition models. Only the limited came with the color keyed cladding and overfenders. Lots of prospective customers complained all the way to corporate and mid-year the color keyed started coming in on all models. Hint: start calling 1-800-GO-TOYOTA and complain about the lack of VSC and TRAC on the Touring and XL. More later tonight. I finally got to test drive an XLS this morning.
#1674 of 14965 Re: Vsc and Track on Touring [mackabee]
Feb 17, 2005 (2:44 pm)
Hi Macabee. I ordered mud guards for my 05 Avalon, and they got in black ones. I said does that mean the mud guards won't be color keyed? The Sales Manager said he asked and that they will be color keyed they just haven't gotten them yet. So I will wait, they have to look nicer being color keyed. What I don't understand is the fact that they are offered as an option, why don't they prepare for this in advance so I could have had them already? I am assuming it's a supplier problem since I doubt Toyota manufactures them. I just wonder if you have any input on this.