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#14828 of 14965 Rear set recliner
Aug 20, 2010 (7:28 am)
I recently had to have a new cable assembly installed for the right side rear passenger seat of my 2007 Avalon Limited, as the seat did not recline. The total cost was $410. I just now discovered that I have the same problem with the left side rear passenger seat.
The rear seat reclining feature for either seat has rarely been used; probably less than 15 times since I purchased the car (as a new car).
I am interested in finding out if this is a common problem or unique to my Avalon and if any one has had experience with Toyota covering a repair of this type after the warranty period.
#14829 of 14965 Re: Dump this car? [chrstna446]
Aug 20, 2010 (7:41 am)
How much of a leak are we talking about? If its small, I would just leave it and check the oil regularly. My 99 S10 that I use as a second car leaks a few drops from the rear main seal overnight. It never needs any oil between changes, so I just leave it the way it is.
If its leaking badly and must be repaired, try finding a local mechanic to do it. I could be a lot less than what the dealer is charging.
#14830 of 14965 Re: Dump this car? [chrstna446]
Aug 21, 2010 (11:19 am)
Depends, if the Avalon is in good condition, this is what "I" would do. First give Toyota the chance by contacting the area rep. If they blow you off & you have proof of a fix (good for you), then make the rep aware you are going to small claims court to sue as obviously the fix did not accomplish anything permanent. I am a letter writer, people in my area know me & know that. First to Toyota cares, make it known you are going public as in a letter to the editor about BAD treatment by your dealer & poor quality, I doubt they want any more local BAD publicity. If that doesn't work take your paper work to small claims AFTER you get a written estimate of the redundant work. Usually one has to pay for the work & then sue or you could go to a local guy as suggested, me I'd sue.
#14831 of 14965 Re: Dump this car? [chrstna446]
Aug 21, 2010 (1:39 pm)
chrstna446, the fact that Toyota covered a part that was out of warranty tells you something. They want to keep a customer happy and coming back. Call Toyota and see what the company will do for you. On another note even if you had to pay the $2,450 would you be able to spend that kind of money on any other car and still get ANOTHER 200.000 miles out of it. I have seen avalons with 300.000 miles on them and still driving them. It wouldn't hurt to go up the chain of command and see what Toyota will do for you.
#14832 of 14965 Re: Dump this car? [chrstna446]
Aug 23, 2010 (11:15 am)
Thank you for your responses. The leak isn't a big one and it actually has been leaking since at least April, so for the time being just watching the levels is working.
Jlsexton, is that an area SALES rep or is there another type of area rep? I'm not familiar with the Toyota chains of command.
Dlovesb: I agree when they fixed the car the first time there was good will from the dealer and it was appreciated. From what I've found out, this seems to be a known problem and they did they right thing three years ago, but evidently the fix wasn't enough since I'm in the same prediciment.
Looks like I can try to fight for something, but I really don't want to go to small claims court. Like I said before I now have other transportation that I can depend on. And I hear what you are saying that I couldn't buy a car like this for the $2,540 if I knew this would work, but I don't NEED to buy another car and since the first time they fixed it didn't seem to work long term, will the $2,540 only buy me another 3 years? Perhaps it might be better to get what I can for it now?
I think I will try to contact Toyota to see if there is anything they are willing to do for me first and see where this takes me . . .
#14833 of 14965 Cabin air filter replacement
Sep 07, 2010 (4:13 pm)
Here's a do-it-yourself tip that previous posts about how to change the cabin air filter haven't mentioned: the little "piston" or shock absorber, which allows the door of the glove compartment to descend slowly rather than dropping open precipitously, MIGHT fall out of its housing when you unscrew it and press in the sides of the glove compartment to lower it so that you can access the cabin air filter (see other posts for those instructions). If that piston (a small round black piece of plastic about 2 inches long) falls out, when you are done replacing the cabin air filter and ready to put the screw back in place, reinsert the piston into its housing (a round slot of matching diameter to the right the glove compartment - the piston has 2 small black plastic loops, one at either end of the pistion: the bottom loop gets mounted where you removed the screw. The loop at the top end is harder to reattach: you will have to use your finger to find (by feel) the attachment point (inside the round housing for the piston) where the top loop will fit - you won't be able to see this, only feel it- once your finger finds it, the loop will snap right into place there. With the piston attached at both ends (top & bottom), it will now work properly to lower the glove compartment door slowly. Worst case scenario: if you don't snap the top loop on the piston back into place properly, you can still open & close the glove compartment door, but it will drop down hard, rather than opening slowly/gently. It took me about 5 minutes fiddling with it till I figured this out and my finger found the mount for the top loop on the piston. It's not TOO hard if you're patient. Good luck!
#14834 of 14965 Re: steering problem [fiveaces]
Sep 20, 2010 (6:51 pm)
Yes! I had the same problem with the steering box. Toyota replaced it a few years ago after a recall notice, then about a year later, the steering was making a creaking noise while turning. As I only drive this car in the summer it does not have that many miles on it. After taking it back to Toyota, they told me that the box needed lurication and for somewhere between $100.00 and $600.00 they could fix it. I called Toyota head office in Canada and they told me to see my dealer.!!
It is now a year later and it still makes a noise and I think what happened is when they replaced the steering box, the mechanic spilled most of the lube on my car carpets. Toyota didn't want to admit that it was a problem so I will just drive like this until the next service and take it to a different dealer to have it checked out.
I am disappointed With Toyota and my next car will not be a Toyota.
#14835 of 14965 TSB to correct transmission issues in 05 Avalon
Sep 25, 2010 (2:08 pm)
Some of you may already know about this, but I thought that I would pass it along anyway. We purchased an early 05 Avalon, new. From the beginning the operation of the transmission was never smooth, and when trying to accelerate from an almost stopped condition sometimes the transmission could not select the proper gear. Sometimes when trying to speed up with the flow of traffic, it would drop down a gear and accelerate too quickly. That was a dangerous thing in congested traffic.
Up-shifts were rarely smooth. I kept complaining to the dealer, and to Toyota in California. The answers were always the same "your transmission is working normally and there are no updates for it."
Well about two weeks ago I found out by accident that in 2007 Toyota came out with a TSB to correct the problem. It is TSB EG033-07. I had it performed on my car last week and you can not believe the difference it made.
It is free if the car has less than 80,000 miles and is under 96 months old. Mine was well within those limits. It is a fairly involved process that requires the replacement of both exhaust manifolds, several sensors, a vacuum switching valve, and a reflash of the ecu to 2007 standards.
If any of you have a 2005 model that has not had this update and falls within these time and mileage limits, you really should have it done. Mine drives like a brand new car. The transmission is so smoooooth now.
A TSB is not a recall. They are not going to come looking for you. It is one of those things that basically says "If they complain, fix it, otherwise keep your mouth shut."
Hope this helps someone --- have a good day.
#14836 of 14965 Re: TSB to correct transmission issues in 05 Avalon [okie34]
Sep 26, 2010 (2:59 am)
And that is WHY if you have a problem, SCREAM about it, one never knows. If Toyota was really all about quality as they profess, they would make this public to their customers. Once again, NEVER purchase the first year of a major change. I had to call about the acceleration problem to have them re-flash the chip, even though I hadn't had a problem and I let corporate know that.
#14837 of 14965 Re: TSB to correct transmission issues in 05 Avalon [jlsexton]
Sep 26, 2010 (8:38 am)
I did try to get them to correct the problem for the first two years, then just gave up and lived with it. That was in 05 and 06. The TSB didn't come out until June of 07.
Early on I had another TSB performed to replace the steering shaft because it made noise. It took them a while to get the part so Toyota Customer Service in California gave me a $300.00 credit that I could spend on whatever I wanted at any Toyota Dealer. Between my Avalon and Prius I managed to spend $295.00 of it. Good for Toyota on that one.
I did get recall notices on the VVT oil line replacement and the floor mat / accellerator pedal / reflash items, and had both of them done. Again Toyota was very good and loaned me cars each time.
Can't complain much about that. I just made the post about the TSB hoping that it might help someone who has the same problem and had not heard about the fix.