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#14739 of 14963 Re: 2000-2004 vs 2005-2009 
Aug 31, 2009 (4:10 am)
I went from an '03 XL to an '06 XLS. The extra size was't a big deal for me. If anything it was a plus. IMO the only thing that the '03 had over the '06 was the seats. They were bigger and more comfortable to me. Other than that the '06 was fantastic, more power with better MPG, slightly better handling (although still soft) and great features. Also, the Toyota 2GR V6 is amazing, one of the greatest V6's available today. If I were you I would look for a lightly used Touring model provided you don't mind black interior as that is all that is available. The Touring has a tighter suspension, xenon lights, and a spoiler all standard.
Regarding the ES, if you don't need the extra room the Avalon offers the ES may be for you. Take note though, that it rides very soft and isolated from the road. This doesn't sound like your cup of tea.
In the end they are both great cars. My '06 Avalon only had an O2 sensor problem in the time I owned it (3 yrs 35K). I have a Hyundai Genesis now and while its a great car I miss my Avalon.
#14740 of 14963 Re: 2000-2004 vs 2005-2009 [tjc78]
Aug 31, 2009 (8:18 am)
Hyundai Genesis, this is only a question. I looked at them, they are not much different from the Azera in size and a lot of money,($42,000) what about resale, did you consider that prior to buying ?
#14741 of 14963 Re: 2000-2004 vs 2005-2009 [jlsexton]
Aug 31, 2009 (9:54 am)
I leased at a great rate (.0006 MF and $1,000 rebate) and residual value after three years was 48 or 49% so I don't think resale will be much worse than many others. My V6 Genesis had a sticker of $35,100. It has the premium package which is equipped like an Avalon Limited without NAV. The $42,000 is for a V8 with tech package.
Anyway, its a good car, handles much better than the Avalon at the expense of ride quality, but is quieter than the Avalon. Very similar interior dimensions to the Avalon too, although the Av is a little bigger in the back seat.
All in all I do like the car, but I have to say everytime I drive it I miss my Avalon. IMO the Avalon is still the best large car on the road for those looking for a roomy highway cruiser.
#14742 of 14963 Re: 2000-2004 vs 2005-2009 
Aug 31, 2009 (8:05 pm)
As one who has owned an Avalon of each generation, let me assure you there are differences each five years. Most things improve because it's a Toyota. But not everything, depending on what you need in a car.
The post from *tjc78* is very accurate. The '03 seats were a lot more comfortable on long trips than my '07 Limited seats are. But the power train, gas mileage and suspension are far superior in the '05 up models. My only real complaint is that the trunk has gotten slightly smaller with each generation even though the overall car is slightly longer. There is also a little less outward visibility in the latest model and that might make the car seem larger than it is.
As for Lexus, the ride is pure luxury, very soft in the corners. No sport or driving feel at all, small rear seat and outward visibility limitations. Great car, just not for me, I like a little feedback from the road but nothing really stiff and the '07 Limited has that. It's fun to drive, along with being functional, as we travel to FL a lot.
As a group, these three Avalons are among the best cars I have ever owned and that spans 50 years of legal licensed driving.. and the 3 years before that we won't discuss here.. Hope this answers your questions..
#14743 of 14963 2005-2008 How to tell if your car has VSC or not
Sep 08, 2009 (7:05 am)
I'm shopping for avalons and most dealers don't list if the car has VSC or not. On the 2000-2004 it was easy to tell if the car had vsc because of the vsc off button below and to the right of the steering wheel.
On the 2005-2008 (vsc was standard in 2009) is it true that you can tell if the car has vsc by the VSC light illuminating when you first turn on the car? Or do all avalons do this regardless of VSC? Is there another way to tell?
#14744 of 14963 Re: 2000-2004 vs 2005-2009 [jlsexton]
Sep 13, 2009 (12:53 pm)
The main differences are the Genesis is RWD, which is an advantage or disadvantage depending on your needs. Also, I looked at Genesis and immediately ruled it out because it's really a 4 passenger car. Try out the middle of the back seat if you have any questions about that. I also found Genesis less smooth and less vibration free than Avalon.
#14745 of 14963 Wiper Blade Noise / Replacement
Sep 13, 2009 (12:58 pm)
The wipers are horribly loud on my '09 Limited -- very bad thing in a car that is otherwise so smooth and quiet. Any recommendations on blade replacements that are quiet and effective??? Thanks.
#14746 of 14963 Re: Wiper Blade Noise / Replacement [1lotlizard]
Sep 13, 2009 (3:08 pm)
Probably made in CHINA like my so called OE replacements, not JAPAN. might just put back the originals because these, as you say, are noisy, sounds like hard rubber.
#14747 of 14963 Re: Wiper Blade Noise / Replacement [jlsexton]
Sep 13, 2009 (8:48 pm)
Don't know where mine were manufactured, but they were put on by a dealer since the original ones on the new car were already decompsing and leaving smears of rubber on the window the day after I bought the car. That's why I'd like to know if anyone has found a non-Toyota replacement for these wipers.
#14748 of 14963 Re: Wiper Blade Noise / Replacement [1lotlizard]
Sep 14, 2009 (4:39 am)
Most of the big chains (Advance Auto, Auto Zone, etc) have them or can order them for you.