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Re: 2006 Ivory Avalon Floor Mats [cathedral] by jlsexton
Aug 12, 2009 (3:41 pm)
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Replying to: cathedral (Aug 12, 2009 12:34 pm)

Good luck, for me they would have to more than sit on the floor for $170. Any news on the 2010 Avalon, minus the rumors.
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Re: 2006 Ivory Avalon Floor Mats [jlsexton] by pat HOST
Aug 12, 2009 (5:58 pm)
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Replying to: jlsexton (Aug 12, 2009 3:41 pm)

Any news on the 2010 Avalon, minus the rumors.
 
Good place to pursue that: 2010 Toyota Avalon.
 
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2000-2004 vs 2005-2009 by 55396
Aug 30, 2009 (6:17 pm)
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We have a 2003 Avalon and have upgraded the suspension with Energy sway bar bushings and KYB GR2 struts which transformed the car. (see posts in previous 04 and earlier and Suspension forums) I really like the car now with it's BMW like handling, but it now has 80k on it and I can probably still get a decent price for it. The other choice is to just keep it.
 
We have been put off by the size of the 05+ Avalons and weren't impressed with the lack of 'fun factor' in ones that we drove. But I have a size question for those of you that traded up from the previous generation. What were your early impressions of the new design? Did it feel a lot larger? How did the driving experience compare. I expect that the suspension was more taut, but was it as enjoyable to drive or just feel like a nice riding big car? With ES 350's coming off lease, I'm considering one as we really don't need the extra size of the Avalon. I would probably upgrade the suspension on that for a sportier feel too.
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Re: 2000-2004 vs 2005-2009 [55396] by tjc78
Aug 31, 2009 (4:10 am)
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Replying to: 55396 (Aug 30, 2009 6:17 pm)

I went from an '03 XL to an '06 XLS. The extra size was't a big deal for me. If anything it was a plus. IMO the only thing that the '03 had over the '06 was the seats. They were bigger and more comfortable to me. Other than that the '06 was fantastic, more power with better MPG, slightly better handling (although still soft) and great features. Also, the Toyota 2GR V6 is amazing, one of the greatest V6's available today. If I were you I would look for a lightly used Touring model provided you don't mind black interior as that is all that is available. The Touring has a tighter suspension, xenon lights, and a spoiler all standard.
 
Regarding the ES, if you don't need the extra room the Avalon offers the ES may be for you. Take note though, that it rides very soft and isolated from the road. This doesn't sound like your cup of tea.
 
In the end they are both great cars. My '06 Avalon only had an O2 sensor problem in the time I owned it (3 yrs 35K). I have a Hyundai Genesis now and while its a great car I miss my Avalon.
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Re: 2000-2004 vs 2005-2009 [tjc78] by jlsexton
Aug 31, 2009 (8:18 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Aug 31, 2009 4:10 am)

Hyundai Genesis, this is only a question. I looked at them, they are not much different from the Azera in size and a lot of money,($42,000) what about resale, did you consider that prior to buying ?
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Re: 2000-2004 vs 2005-2009 [jlsexton] by tjc78
Aug 31, 2009 (9:54 am)
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Replying to: jlsexton (Aug 31, 2009 8:18 am)

I leased at a great rate (.0006 MF and $1,000 rebate) and residual value after three years was 48 or 49% so I don't think resale will be much worse than many others. My V6 Genesis had a sticker of $35,100. It has the premium package which is equipped like an Avalon Limited without NAV. The $42,000 is for a V8 with tech package.
 
Anyway, its a good car, handles much better than the Avalon at the expense of ride quality, but is quieter than the Avalon. Very similar interior dimensions to the Avalon too, although the Av is a little bigger in the back seat.
 
All in all I do like the car, but I have to say everytime I drive it I miss my Avalon. IMO the Avalon is still the best large car on the road for those looking for a roomy highway cruiser.
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Re: 2000-2004 vs 2005-2009 [55396] by fin
Aug 31, 2009 (8:05 pm)
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Replying to: 55396 (Aug 30, 2009 6:17 pm)

As one who has owned an Avalon of each generation, let me assure you there are differences each five years. Most things improve because it's a Toyota. But not everything, depending on what you need in a car.
 
The post from *tjc78* is very accurate. The '03 seats were a lot more comfortable on long trips than my '07 Limited seats are. But the power train, gas mileage and suspension are far superior in the '05 up models. My only real complaint is that the trunk has gotten slightly smaller with each generation even though the overall car is slightly longer. There is also a little less outward visibility in the latest model and that might make the car seem larger than it is.
 
As for Lexus, the ride is pure luxury, very soft in the corners. No sport or driving feel at all, small rear seat and outward visibility limitations. Great car, just not for me, I like a little feedback from the road but nothing really stiff and the '07 Limited has that. It's fun to drive, along with being functional, as we travel to FL a lot.
 
As a group, these three Avalons are among the best cars I have ever owned and that spans 50 years of legal licensed driving.. and the 3 years before that we won't discuss here.. Hope this answers your questions..
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2005-2008 How to tell if your car has VSC or not by mxyz
Sep 08, 2009 (7:05 am)
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I'm shopping for avalons and most dealers don't list if the car has VSC or not. On the 2000-2004 it was easy to tell if the car had vsc because of the vsc off button below and to the right of the steering wheel.
 
On the 2005-2008 (vsc was standard in 2009) is it true that you can tell if the car has vsc by the VSC light illuminating when you first turn on the car? Or do all avalons do this regardless of VSC? Is there another way to tell?
 
Thanks!
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Re: 2000-2004 vs 2005-2009 [jlsexton] by 1lotlizard
Sep 13, 2009 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: jlsexton (Aug 31, 2009 8:18 am)

The main differences are the Genesis is RWD, which is an advantage or disadvantage depending on your needs. Also, I looked at Genesis and immediately ruled it out because it's really a 4 passenger car. Try out the middle of the back seat if you have any questions about that. I also found Genesis less smooth and less vibration free than Avalon.
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Wiper Blade Noise / Replacement by 1lotlizard
Sep 13, 2009 (12:58 pm)
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The wipers are horribly loud on my '09 Limited -- very bad thing in a car that is otherwise so smooth and quiet. Any recommendations on blade replacements that are quiet and effective??? Thanks.

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