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Re: So the formula we use to work out the top speed? [necro1234] by fin
Dec 24, 2008 (5:12 pm)
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Replying to: necro1234 (Dec 24, 2008 4:04 pm)

Sheldon, FYI...
 
The weight of a vehicle has very little to do with vehicle top speed, whatever it is. Reason: "Objects in motion tend to stay in motion...."
 
The weight of a vehicle has everything to do with how long it takes to acheive top speed from rest. Reason: "Objects at rest tend to stay at rest...."
 
For top speed limitations the single biggest factor is air, also known as aerodynamic drag (Cd). A smaller engine of less power can easily propel a different vehicle to a higher top speed if the body of the second vehicle is more aerodynamic. Physics 102...
 
Enjoy an Avalon today... Great Cars..
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by necro1234
Dec 24, 2008 (5:45 pm)
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Ta for the reply.
 
Very true, I did not think of that.
I've seen video's though with a (supposedly) stock standard R32 hitting 170mph, I wouldnt have thought the aerodynamics of the vehicle would have allowed it to get to that speed without more power.
Especially on further research that for the 2008 R32 the Drag coefficient is listed as been .32 where the Avalons body is listed as been .29, would this not mean the car with the .29 coefficient would cut through the air better?
 
Thanks again
 
Sheldon
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Re: [necro1234] by fin
Dec 24, 2008 (7:04 pm)
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Replying to: necro1234 (Dec 24, 2008 5:45 pm)

Yes, a lower Cd means a vehicle will not disturb as much air and will be more efficient at high speed, all else remaining equal. Also, there is little difference up to about, say, 45 mph due to the basic design of the car itself. After that, Cd becomes more important very rapidly as frontal air pressure increases with the square of the speed...
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Re: To All [johndjr] by Modad55
Jan 10, 2009 (10:36 am)
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Replying to: johndjr (Dec 13, 2007 5:48 pm)

Where is the Tech issue you refer to? I'm not doing well finding things on the forum yet. Thanks,
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'06 Avalon- O2 sensors and intake manifold replacement for $1,800 by Modad55
Jan 10, 2009 (11:41 am)
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This also applies to '07-'08 Camrys.
The "check engine" and VSC lights came on, so I took it to the dealer. They tell me that I have to replace the O2 sensors and the intake manifold.
The cost was $1,800. I have 45,000 miles and just passed 36 months.
There is a Toyota Service Bulletin (T-SB-0114-08). Does anyone know anything about this? Is it common? What about the repair cost? Help! I am livid...this is supposed to be Toyota's top-of-the line car. So what's with a repair like this, only 9,000 miles out of warranty?
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Re: '06 Avalon- O2 sensors and intake manifold replacement for $1,800 [Modad55] by fin
Jan 10, 2009 (1:25 pm)
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Replying to: Modad55 (Jan 10, 2009 11:41 am)

Not sure on the TSB, will leave that to others, but... O2 sensors are easy to replace and should not cost anything near the $1800. number you use, labor and parts. Replacement is not unusual, they do fail, but this is a little earlier than most.
 
The intake manifold itself is a major engine component and, absent some very unusual situation, is seldom replaced. You need to ask "why" as to this part. In addition, it may be part of the powertrain warranty and replacement may be free, if needed.
 
Suggest you try another dealer, this one is very suspect, based on your information. Post your results. Hope this helps.
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Re: '06 Avalon- O2 sensors and intake manifold replacement for $1,800 [Modad55] by wwest
Jan 11, 2009 (10:52 am)
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Replying to: Modad55 (Jan 10, 2009 11:41 am)

Emissions control warranties extend FAR beyond the normal factory warranty.
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Re: '06 Avalon- O2 sensors and intake manifold replacement for $1,800 [fin] by Modad55
Jan 11, 2009 (4:30 pm)
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Replying to: fin (Jan 10, 2009 1:25 pm)

Thanks for the input. I'll post my progress.
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Re: So the formula we use to work out the top speed? [fin] by amauhry
Jan 13, 2009 (3:05 pm)
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Replying to: fin (Dec 24, 2008 5:12 pm)

fin,
 
Ok, aerodynamic is a big factor in many designs. Coefficient of drag for most family cars we see on the street doesn’t differentiate to the point to account for significant difference in vehicle speed.
 
Here’s this question: which will accelerate faster from rest, a two-cylinder motorcycle (standard specs; no fancy bike) or a Caterpillar truck generating, say, 2000 ft-lbf of torque?
 
…and for the sake of this argument, the bike will leave the Caterpillar in the dust too.
 
Do you all think it is only the drag factor that will give the edge to the bike? If so, think again.
 
Amaury
'08 Limited
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Re: So the formula we use to work out the top speed? [amauhry] by necro1234
Jan 13, 2009 (5:35 pm)
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Replying to: amauhry (Jan 13, 2009 3:05 pm)

I personally would think it would be the power to weight ratio that would count the most.
The bike that may push out far lower torque and bhp also has hardly any weight to deal with, which of course is a different story with the caterpillar.
 
Least thats my thought on it
 
Cheers
 
Sheldon

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