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Re: What are they thinking???? [oldnall]
by wwest
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Oct 09, 2008 (6:50 am)
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Replying to: oldnall (Oct 08, 2008 12:04 pm)
FWD cars are no longer selling into the "upscale" market.
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Re: What are they thinking???? [wwest]
by nimimi
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Oct 09, 2008 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Oct 09, 2008 6:50 am)
Good. I always enjoy seeing those RWD, "upscale" cars slipping, sliding and virtually immobile as I cross Snoqualmie in the Winter.
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Re: What are they thinking???? [wwest]
by captain2
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Oct 09, 2008 (1:04 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Oct 09, 2008 6:50 am)
depends on how you define 'upscale' doesn't it? Would suggest to you strongly that the average Avalon buyer couldn't care less about FWD vs. RWD dynamics - heck I would even go so far as to say that most of them wouldn't be able to identify the Avalon as a FWD car after driving the darn thing - for a year! They would care about a vehicle's size, its comfort, its ride, bling levels etc. something that the Avalon has in spades. If you think that the 'average' Joe that's got a BMW on his mind is going to care about the RWD- you're right - the Avalon buyer OTH - hell no, one car is 'upscale' the other really isn't.
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Re: What are they thinking???? [nimimi]
by captain2
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Oct 09, 2008 (1:07 pm)
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Replying to: nimimi (Oct 09, 2008 7:42 am)
Amen!  The American driving public is not ready for 'wwest's' mass exodus back to our roots. Wishful thinking, I'm afraid.
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Re: What are they thinking???? [nvbanker]
by doobre
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Oct 09, 2008 (11:09 pm)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Oct 08, 2008 11:34 am)
Perhaps you have not been on this forum since the beginning of this model...."ONE dissatisfied cutomer"... I don't think so..
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Re: What are they thinking???? [captain2]
by wwest
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Oct 10, 2008 (7:19 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Oct 09, 2008 1:04 pm)
I would not disagree that the average driver doesn't care, and maybe doesn't even care to know, if the Avalon is FWD or RWD. But enough are beginning to care/know that it's now making a difference in the thinking of automotive manufacturers.
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Steering Column TSB
by retired7
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Oct 10, 2008 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: algee (Sep 09, 2008 3:40 am)
FYI: I recently had the steering column TSB done on my LTD. Clicking noise was just starting and dealer agreed and did TSB. On the way home, I noticed the steering wheel was orientated 10 degrees to the right in order to go straight down the highway. Took it back and they fixed it immediately (they were off one tooth on the steering gear when reassembling)
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Re: What are they thinking???? [wwest]
by jlsexton
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Oct 10, 2008 (10:08 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Oct 10, 2008 7:19 am)
But enough are beginning to care/know that it's now making a difference in the thinking of automotive manufacturers. Meaning just WHAT ?
Lets face it Americans are a great people, just don't ask them who their representatives are or why their voting for whom. So in that vein does anyone really think the average Jane or Joe really knows what RWD or FWD is. Most people don't know where the dipstick is or what it is, never mind the drive train of their vehicle.
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Re: Report on any high mileage issues [mackabee]
by jlsexton
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Oct 10, 2008 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: mackabee (Aug 10, 2008 4:15 pm)
Posted this, no replies, figured you might have the answers..............
Has anyone had luck changing the locking procedure on the doors. I tried to change it to the 12 miles per hour from the place in drive one lockup with no luck.
Also, I usually drain one gallon of antifreeze every 2 years and refresh it with new but where the heck does one fill the radiator, is it under the plastic canopy or somewhere else. What I see is a horizontal not vertical protuberance as in, I presume, a filler neck..
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Re: What are they thinking???? [wwest]
by captain2
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Oct 10, 2008 (11:36 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Oct 10, 2008 7:19 am)
those that do care or know would be those just like nimini that understand that in certain seasons and in certain parts of the country, that same 'average driver' I'm talking about is only going to understand that the FWD car gets him where he wants to go while that 'superior' RWD sedan won't! Travel a snow covered road this winter and note the numbers of cars stuck and/or abandoned on the side of the roads - a disportionate number of 'superior' RWD cars!
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