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Re: filter question [jlsexton]
by cat3126
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Feb 15, 2007 (11:51 am)
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Replying to: jlsexton (Feb 15, 2007 10:54 am)
One of the reasons for going to a canister filter is the canister is of thicker material and allows the use of a grove retained "O" ring or other constrained gasket.The typical oil filter and gasket assembly is known for blow ups,gasket leaks etc. Do to the upper end sludge problems Toyota and others have upped the allowable oil pressure on cold starts etc.In some cases it allows the engine manufacturer to eliminate the oil pressure relief valve completely.
The other reason is the recycling issue. It is much more easy to dispose of the paper filter cartridge and have to separate the can and gasket assembly.
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Re: filter question [cat3126]
by wwest
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Feb 15, 2007 (12:30 pm)
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Replying to: cat3126 (Feb 15, 2007 11:51 am)
I was told by Porsche factory personnel in '01 that it was simply an environmental issue, no good reason for all those metal canisters ending up at the dump.
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Re: filter question [cat3126]
by retired7
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Feb 15, 2007 (12:36 pm)
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Replying to: cat3126 (Feb 15, 2007 11:51 am)
Yeah, and the Toyota parts man told me it's more environmentally friendly using the cartridege vs spin off filter. Sure not user/owner friendly to replace cartridge and the 3/8" ratchet is too small for the aluminum recess and chews up the material. I'm sure there is a special tool I can purchase from Toyota for a low price!
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Re: filter question [retired7]
by captain2
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Feb 15, 2007 (1:41 pm)
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Replying to: retired7 (Feb 15, 2007 12:36 pm)
the 3/8" ratchet extension works very well for me, the center 'plug' should not be that tight. Working on my 12th oil change, and had no trouble - even found a 'standard' size cap wrench that works on the casing once the plug is removed and the oil is drained. I wouldn't give Toyota the satisfaction of paying some ridiculous price, but actually like the way the system works, I leave much less old oil dripping down the side of the engine, on the suspension parts etc. than I do, for example, on my wife's Nissan 3.5.
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Re: filter question [rpfingsten]
by bobwiley
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Feb 15, 2007 (2:06 pm)
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Replying to: rpfingsten (Feb 15, 2007 4:18 am)
Hi Roland---just like they've said in the other reply's--it looks like a smaller version of the removable filter on your shop vac! My mechanic has to special order, but, since he has many Toyota customer's , he keeps them in stock. Since I change my oil every 3K miles, I just have Dale use the same Valvoline he stocks. Don't rally think you'd have to use a Mobil 1 oil filter--the standard Toyota filter should be fine. Guess the best practice is to ask your dealer.
Bob
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Re: Reminder -- how to cure quirky shifting episodes [havalongavalon]
by bobwiley
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Feb 15, 2007 (2:16 pm)
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Replying to: havalongavalon (Feb 13, 2007 8:47 pm)
Well, I tried leaving the tranny in the "S" mode and coming to a rolling stop--foot straight up and down on the gas pedal---same thing---engine rev'd to 3,500 RPM and off I went. I said-- #%!*^--well ya know what I said--anyway--I backed up, tried it my way--in 1st gear in "S" and then once moving at about 15-20 MPH, slide the gear shift over to "D"--NO NONE ZERO NATTA a slip nor surge--worked great. Tried it coming back home--same result doing it both ways. They can say what they want--there IS a problem with the tranny--but--since I can, at least for now, control it--I'll continue with my procedure. Thanks!
Bob
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Re: Reminder -- how to cure quirky shifting episodes [bobwiley]
by captain2
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Feb 15, 2007 (2:26 pm)
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Replying to: bobwiley (Feb 15, 2007 2:16 pm)
on this advice (from the same poster) glened several months ago on this site, I also drive my Avalon in S5 and of course with no issues with it at all. Would be interested to know if you experience a slight decrease in FE - I lost maybe .5 mpg. One of the reasons that the tranny operates the way it does, is, after all, to maximize FE. Glad this worked for you!
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Re: Reminder -- how to cure quirky shifting episodes [captain2]
by bobwiley
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Feb 15, 2007 (5:55 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 15, 2007 2:26 pm)
Wonder why a drop in FE? S5 should be the same as D--it is a 5 speed tranny. Oh well, I've stopped trying to figure out the tranny and just resigned myself to shifting 1 S1---taking off and then shifting back to D---NEVER had a aproblem--so I guess if it anin't broke don't fix it!
Bob
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Re: Reminder -- how to cure quirky shifting episodes [bobwiley]
by havalongavalon
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Feb 15, 2007 (7:41 pm)
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Replying to: bobwiley (Feb 15, 2007 5:55 pm)
Hi Bob,
The way I see it, if you shift back to D after you start in S1, you are telling the CPU to start watching your driving habits again! If you return to the same old slow down/speed up location while in D, your Av will faithfully screw up for you, again!
This is why I suggest that you shift into S5 and just leave it there. Don't shift back to D. See if this cures the surging misbehavior.
havalong
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Re: Reminder -- how to cure quirky shifting episodes [captain2]
by havalongavalon
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Feb 15, 2007 (7:58 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 15, 2007 2:26 pm)
Hey Captain,
Glad that you too prefer to drive in S5. But I don't follow the argument that this may cost you some FE. I see no reason why driving in S5 would be worse than in D, FE-wise. I actually find the opposite. In S, I can often "nudge" it into a higher gear sooner than the controller would. For example, as I'm about to reach the crest of a hill, I can make the RPM drop from say 2400 to 1800 with no loss of speed nor any noticeable strain. This should help improve FE, slightly. Don't you agree?
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