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filter question
by rpfingsten
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Feb 15, 2007 (4:18 am)
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Hello all, and especially to you bob... I've been reading every night, just not chiming in very often.. but I have a question concerning the avy's oil filter. I always use Mobil 1 syn. oil and Filter. When I went to the local auto parts store to get a new Filter, they didn't have a cross reference book for the 07 models.. So I emailed Mobil and asked them for the correct oil filter "model".. here's the reply I got
"The 2007 Toyota Avalon 3.5l is a canister filter. Mobil one does offer that style yet."
I don't want to show my stupidity, but what is a "canister" filter.. How do they differ from "normal" filters and which is better for your car? Somebody please help an old man out. Preesh.
Roland
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- #13469 of 14778
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Re: filter question [rpfingsten]
by mem4
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Feb 15, 2007 (4:28 am)
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Replying to: rpfingsten (Feb 15, 2007 4:18 am)
The best way I can describe it is the filter has an outer shell housing that is reusable and you change the inner pleated filter paper only. Buy one at your Toyota dealer and you will see what I mean. The filter comes with instructions and if you search here you will find a posting with pictures describing the change procedure.
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Re: And by the way... [pmvision]
by tjc78
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Feb 15, 2007 (4:45 am)
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Replying to: pmvision (Feb 14, 2007 6:48 pm)
I actually keep a copy of the procedure in the glovebox. I have been lucky and haven't had to use it (except to test). I just want to know, who came up with that crazy series of commands. I hope on future models the "off" switch comes back.
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Re: And by the way... [tjc78]
by pmvision
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Feb 15, 2007 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Feb 15, 2007 4:45 am)
...I actually keep a copy of the procedure in the glovebox...
I do now, too. 
Ditto on the idea of a hardware switch.
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Re: And by the way... [wwest]
by pmvision
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Feb 15, 2007 (8:29 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Feb 14, 2007 9:24 pm)
So, did you use the simple "unplug the MAF/IAT" procedure?
No messing with hardware, just software.
Click the link below, print the 13 step engage/disengage procedure. Then watch the video.
How to switch off VSC on a Lexus GS430
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- #13473 of 14778
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Re: filter question [rpfingsten]
by jlsexton
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Feb 15, 2007 (10:54 am)
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Replying to: rpfingsten (Feb 15, 2007 4:18 am)
Why they went to these filters is beyond me, they appear to be emulating Mercedes Benz. My wife's Mazda, an 04 has one and in my opinion it is plain stupid & annoying. I am just turning 3000 miles on my 06 Avalon abd pray mine is not one. Could be the cost factor as I found them MORE expensive and to top it off Mazda placed the access hole in the wrong place and I had to remore the plastic pan and CUT a new access to it. Fortunately I have free oil changes from my dealer so by the time I run out I will have sold the car. Toyota has a service at 5000 miles for oil & filter & balancing. Are they now recommending a 5000 mile oil change, if so remember, they want to sell cars.
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Re: filter question [jlsexton]
by cat3126
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Feb 15, 2007 (11:51 am)
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Replying to: jlsexton (Feb 15, 2007 10:54 am)
One of the reasons for going to a canister filter is the canister is of thicker material and allows the use of a grove retained "O" ring or other constrained gasket.The typical oil filter and gasket assembly is known for blow ups,gasket leaks etc. Do to the upper end sludge problems Toyota and others have upped the allowable oil pressure on cold starts etc.In some cases it allows the engine manufacturer to eliminate the oil pressure relief valve completely.
The other reason is the recycling issue. It is much more easy to dispose of the paper filter cartridge and have to separate the can and gasket assembly.
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Re: filter question [cat3126]
by wwest
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Feb 15, 2007 (12:30 pm)
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Replying to: cat3126 (Feb 15, 2007 11:51 am)
I was told by Porsche factory personnel in '01 that it was simply an environmental issue, no good reason for all those metal canisters ending up at the dump.
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Re: filter question [cat3126]
by retired7
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Feb 15, 2007 (12:36 pm)
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Replying to: cat3126 (Feb 15, 2007 11:51 am)
Yeah, and the Toyota parts man told me it's more environmentally friendly using the cartridege vs spin off filter. Sure not user/owner friendly to replace cartridge and the 3/8" ratchet is too small for the aluminum recess and chews up the material. I'm sure there is a special tool I can purchase from Toyota for a low price!
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Re: filter question [retired7]
by captain2
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Feb 15, 2007 (1:41 pm)
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Replying to: retired7 (Feb 15, 2007 12:36 pm)
the 3/8" ratchet extension works very well for me, the center 'plug' should not be that tight. Working on my 12th oil change, and had no trouble - even found a 'standard' size cap wrench that works on the casing once the plug is removed and the oil is drained. I wouldn't give Toyota the satisfaction of paying some ridiculous price, but actually like the way the system works, I leave much less old oil dripping down the side of the engine, on the suspension parts etc. than I do, for example, on my wife's Nissan 3.5.
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