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#12995 of 14780 Re: More On Avalon Performance [captain2] by wwest Aug 11, 2006 (12:26 pm)
Replying to: captain2 (Aug 11, 2006 11:06 am) "...What do you suppose the dealer will tell him?..."   An HONEST dealer, of which there are NONE, would tell him to get rid of his FWD or front biased AWD and buy a REAL car, RWD or front biased AWD (the new Acura SH-AWD equipped models come immediately to mind) and be rid of the dangers of FWD altogether. Replies to this message: captain2 (Aug 11, 2006 2:25 pm)
#12996 of 14780 Re: More On Avalon Performance [captain2] by niteone Aug 11, 2006 (12:38 pm)
Replying to: captain2 (Aug 11, 2006 11:06 am) "Sound familiar? What do you suppose the dealer will tell him? "   yep, the same thing Toyota tells us, 'that's the way it works.'   but, I'm sure it doesn't do that in all vehicles that are DBW. I have seen others on this forum mention Honda for instance, or Nissan, I can't remember, but I don't think or I haven't heard, or I'm not as informed as I should be, that their having the same issues..the 'lag' or 'hesitation'.
#12997 of 14780 Re: first shopping cart dent [midnightcowboy] by dan41 Aug 11, 2006 (2:03 pm)
Replying to: midnightcowboy (Aug 11, 2006 10:37 am) "Any repainting can be detected by a dealer when you trade your car in and will significantly lower your trade-in price"   Go ahead and get your car repaired. It certainly sounds like very minor work and I take exception to the comment that doing so will "significantly lower your trade-in price". Don't worry, get it repainted and enjoy your car. dan Replies to this message: pat (Aug 11, 2006 2:27 pm)
#12998 of 14780 Re: More On Avalon Performance [wwest] by captain2 Aug 11, 2006 (2:25 pm)
Replying to: wwest (Aug 11, 2006 12:26 pm) there you go again, blaming all that's wrong in the world on FWD. The Forester AWD BTW, and one marque that I can think of that has been rife with transmission anomalies - MB! But, they wouldn't be all RWD and cost twice or three times what they are worth - would they? FWD has little to do with any of this - how do you explain the millions of Avalons/Camrys/ESs etc. that had perfectly fine (4 speed) trannys for the last 20 years - before all this new electronically/computer controlled stuff - an accident?
#12999 of 14780 Re: first shopping cart dent [dan41] by pat HOST Aug 11, 2006 (2:27 pm)
Replying to: dan41 (Aug 11, 2006 2:03 pm) Seems to me that visible damage, such as an unrepaired dent, would be more costly in terms of a sale price than a repaired and properly repainted one. The dent is what it is. Not getting it fixed it for the sake of a sale price doesn't make sense to me.
#13000 of 14780 Re: first shopping cart dent [midnightcowboy] by lnt Aug 11, 2006 (4:33 pm)
Replying to: midnightcowboy (Aug 11, 2006 10:37 am) But, will it lower the trade-in price more than the dent?? I like to trade cars every 3 or 4 years.
#13001 of 14780 shopping cart dent by lnt Aug 11, 2006 (4:48 pm)
Thanks to all who responded to my question. I guess I will go ahead and have it repaired because it sure does ruin the looks of my car. I think I will go to the dealership where I bought the car and get an estimate from them, though. I think I would feel better if a Toyota dealership did the job - even though they told me that they subcontract their dent repair jobs out too. I have to wait until I get back from a trip, though - Airplane trip - not car.
#13002 of 14780 yes... by ghulet Aug 11, 2006 (9:02 pm)
...for all the blathering on Edmunds about dealers 'being able to detect a repaint from a mile away', it still seems better to me than EVERYONE being able to tell your car has been damaged from a mile away. People get into accidents, it's just a fact of life. Most used cars aren't perfect, but I think most would rather have one with well-repaired body work than not repaired, or one with major mechanical defects.
#13003 of 14780 Re: More On Avalon Performance [captain2] by gartmacd Aug 12, 2006 (5:28 am)
Replying to: captain2 (Aug 11, 2006 10:06 am) Betcha that I could jump into his car right now and 'force' the hesitation - it is much more likely that his driving style, methods, and habits are something that the control programs can handle I have to disagree with your contention. There are four adults on this trip. We take turns driving. None of us has experienced anything out of the ordinary with this car. Besides, as I alluded to earlier, I personally tried a variety of techniques to see if I can make this car hesitate,lurch, spike, or any other anomaly. Nada! It just goes, smoothly, consistently, and without any noticeable change under any circumstances. We're off in about 1/2 hour for the next leg of this trip, so I won't be on line until another web source come up. Hope to hear from you by then. Best take a hard look at that theory in the meantime. Replies to this message: 9119911 (Aug 12, 2006 7:05 am) nimimi (Aug 12, 2006 9:36 am) madmancd (Aug 12, 2006 5:29 pm) user777 (Aug 12, 2006 8:25 pm) and 3 more...
#13004 of 14780 Re: More On Avalon Performance [gartmacd] by 9119911 Aug 12, 2006 (7:05 am)
Replying to: gartmacd (Aug 12, 2006 5:28 am) I suspect you have an abnormal Avalon, since those that do hesitate are normal. To those that have such luck, do you stop to think, we that have a "normal" Avalon, have nothing to gain by spending our time enroute/at the dealership.Each time I carry mine in for REPAIR it takes me 30 minutes to type up the quirky symptoms...go figure.   Cj

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