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Replying to: niteone (Aug 11, 2006 7:12 am) gartmacd has made it clear that his VSC Avalon does NOT have this issue and that he has looked carefully for it. What is the evidence, beyond your personal experience, for your assertion that every VSC Avalon has the issue therefore he must simply not be noticing it? There is no clear correlation between hesitation/lag and VSC. People without VSC have reported it too.
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Replying to: smith1 (Aug 11, 2006 8:17 am) with no evidence other than by my own experience and what I've heard from the majority of people who own Avalons, both on this board, and other boards and people I know who own the vehicle, including the 3 in my company, then it's not all Avalons. not all have this issue, only that the majority that I've either spoken to in person or on other boards have this issue, whether it bothers them or not, it's still an issue and whether it's the majority of all Avalons is still an issue, but that's not an excuse for being 'somewhat' ignored by Toyota concerning this issue. and, I might add, I'm not bothered by the hesitation, I just think it shouldn't be there. |
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Replying to: niteone (Aug 11, 2006 5:23 am) |
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Replying to: smith1 (Aug 11, 2006 8:17 am) I think that is correct. Doesn't the toyota implementation have a chime or audio alert when VSC is operating to bring the vehicle under control?
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Replying to: user777 (Aug 11, 2006 9:18 am) I don't believe so, or at least I've never heard it. One time in pouring rain, I know for a fact the VSC was controlling the car, and I didn't hear a chime or audio alert and either there isn't one or there is something wrong with mine, cause in that kind of weather (pouring rain), I'm usually alert with the stereo off.
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Replying to: tjc78 (Aug 11, 2006 3:53 am) But yes, there were/are multiple reasons for adopting DBW but IMMHO the MAJOR one was to prevent or alleviate those premature transaxle failures due to engine torque rising during unpredictablee, "emergency", downshifts. |
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Replying to: niteone (Aug 11, 2006 9:25 am) Both indications should be extended beyond the "event" so the driver will have an opportunity to see what has just happened. |
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Replying to: smith1 (Aug 11, 2006 8:17 am) Betcha that I could jump into his car right now and 'force' the hesitation - it is much more likely that his driving style, methods, and habits are something that the control programs can handle - the same reason why I don't regard the hesitation as problematical. I have learned how the car 'wants' to be driven! All Avalons, as well as many other Toyota/Lexus products and cars from other mfgrs., do exhibit the same type behaviors - accept it as a misapplication of technology! And it may get worse before it gets better - or we may all adjust to the point that this becomes second nature?
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Replying to: captain2 (Aug 11, 2006 10:06 am) thank you, I guess that's what I was trying to say all along. whether that's good or bad, depends on how you feel about the hesitation or 'lag' issue....like I mentioned, it doesn't do it all the time, I'm just concerned, that when I need to be at a certain point, like merging onto an expressway from an on-ramp, in heavy fast traffic, I know what the vehicle will do. I'm not so sure that my decision to 'gun it' and expect it to be where I expect it to be, will happen because of this 'lag', whether it's because of the VSC or not, a 'lag' or a 'hesitation' is there, sometimes, and I haven't figured out if it's me driving differently, or it's actually the car doing something I'm not expecting. so, I'm alert in those situations more than I would be in any other car. |
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Replying to: lnt (Aug 10, 2006 5:29 pm)
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