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More On Avalon Performance by gartmacd
Aug 11, 2006 (6:01 am)
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We're currently in a small town called Kingston, on the Fundy coast of Nova Scotia's lower peninsula. Our B&B has the net, so here goes the next episode. Let the criticism fall where it may!
Again, so far so good. Total 7400 kms (approx 4000 miles) to date and climbing fast. Anyone who says you need to go west to find hills hasn't driven the Cabot trail up in Cape Breton, BTW! Average mileage is 6.5 to 7 litres per 100km., or around 30 mpg in US terms. Estimated 70 percent highway driving at an average of about 90-100km/hr. Gas prices here are high, averaging $1.17 per litre of regular, so good mileage helps.
One oil change done en route, oil was clean, light amber colour with no unusual consumption. No leaks or other anomalies.
No evidence of any transmission hesitation, lurching or spiking as some have reported. Drive as smooth as silk so far. Asked a tech about these issues at the dealership we had the oil change done at up in North Sydney. He said there haven't been any complaints of that nature with Avalons or Camrys at their dealership, now or in the past. He really seemed genuinely puzzled why I even asked about it. We have also met a few Camry owners en route and hear the same--"what are you talking about" is a common response.
We don't have Nav (maps work just fine, thanks) so I can't report any experience there.
This car is just fine, and shows every indication of remaining that way. The 2000 we traded in was a great vehicle and gave us 6 years of trouble free service. This one is even better IMO, quieter, smoother, and a lot more power--you need that here because most roads are two lanes and passing slow moving motorhomes and travel trailers happens frequently. I have every reason to believe this new Avalon will give as good or better service than the previous one.
If nothing else, this experience proves to me that the conditions being reported by some are evidently not typical, and perhaps even confined to a small number of affected vehicles.
PLEASE, don't take this as anyway critical of those reports of problems, and definitely don't take my report as "bragging."
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Re: More On Avalon Performance [gartmacd] by niteone
Aug 11, 2006 (6:23 am)
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Replying to: gartmacd (Aug 11, 2006 6:01 am)

thanks for the update..
 
"If nothing else, this experience proves to me that the conditions being reported by some are evidently not typical, and perhaps even confined to a small number of affected vehicles."
 
I'd be willing to bet that almost all 2005/2006/2007 Avalons equiped with VSC, will have a hesitation issue. Do you have it? VSC that is.
 
so, it is typical with Avalons that are equiped with VSC.
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Re: More On Avalon Performance [niteone] by gartmacd
Aug 11, 2006 (6:26 am)
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Replying to: niteone (Aug 11, 2006 6:23 am)

Gee, that didn't take long. Yes, we have the VSC option. Absolutely NO evidence of any hesitation, and believe me, I've been paying attention!! The only options we didn't get were Nav and Laser Cruise. Didn't feel the need, and the car we picked was off the lot anyway.
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Re: More On Avalon Performance [gartmacd] by wrx03man
Aug 11, 2006 (7:12 am)
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Replying to: gartmacd (Aug 11, 2006 6:26 am)

I have a '05 XLS that I purchased new in April of this year with VSC. I have nearly 12K miles on it already and have had no hesitation problems (or anything else for that matter). While there are things I would change/add such as the 10 character audio display, lack of bluetooth, lack of body side moldings (haven't added them yet), etc. I am overall VERY pleased with the car. Hwy mileage is consistently 30-31 mpg.
 
If I had to complain about something its that I've already worn out the cushion on the drivers door armrest. Haven't brought this up w/ my dealer yet but will as it gets uncomfortable on the many long drives I take.
 
I feel for you guys having issues and hope you you are able to get some relief from Toyota some time soon.
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Re: More On Avalon Performance [wrx03man] by niteone
Aug 11, 2006 (8:12 am)
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Replying to: wrx03man (Aug 11, 2006 7:12 am)

I guess what I meant was, I haven't had the big 'rev up' in rpm's, like some have reported, where it can't seem to find a gear, but I do feel a little hesitation... for example, and it only happens sometimes not often, if I'm going around a corner, like an intersection, with my foot off the gas, then step on the gas, sometimes, not all times, there will be a slight 'lag' there, and it's not the majority of times.
 
I'm sure all Avalons equiped with VSC have this lag, maybe it's just some don't feel it as well as others might feel it. But, I'm sure there is a lag in all of them. And, all I'm saying is it shouldn't be there, or felt.
 
but, I do enjoy your reports.
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Re: first shopping cart dent [lnt] by spencer327
Aug 11, 2006 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: lnt (Aug 10, 2006 6:29 pm)

My wife 2003 cassis pearl Avalon had the hood both rh doors and the quarter panels painted, after losing a battle with a gate. Impossible to tell new from old.
BTW: No tranny issues with the 4 speed wish I could say the same about my 5 speed HL. I am not buying a new Avalon or Camry because of this issue.
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Re: More On Avalon Performance [niteone] by smith1
Aug 11, 2006 (9:17 am)
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Replying to: niteone (Aug 11, 2006 8:12 am)

I'm sure all Avalons equiped with VSC have this lag, maybe it's just some don't feel it as well as others might feel it. But, I'm sure there is a lag in all of them. And, all I'm saying is it shouldn't be there, or felt.
 
gartmacd has made it clear that his VSC Avalon does NOT have this issue and that he has looked carefully for it. What is the evidence, beyond your personal experience, for your assertion that every VSC Avalon has the issue therefore he must simply not be noticing it?
 
There is no clear correlation between hesitation/lag and VSC. People without VSC have reported it too.
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Re: More On Avalon Performance [smith1] by niteone
Aug 11, 2006 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: smith1 (Aug 11, 2006 9:17 am)

ok, then I stand corrected.
 
with no evidence other than by my own experience and what I've heard from the majority of people who own Avalons, both on this board, and other boards and people I know who own the vehicle, including the 3 in my company, then it's not all Avalons.
 
not all have this issue, only that the majority that I've either spoken to in person or on other boards have this issue, whether it bothers them or not, it's still an issue and whether it's the majority of all Avalons is still an issue, but that's not an excuse for being 'somewhat' ignored by Toyota concerning this issue.
 
and, I might add, I'm not bothered by the hesitation, I just think it shouldn't be there.
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Re: More On Avalon Performance [niteone] by captain2
Aug 11, 2006 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: niteone (Aug 11, 2006 6:23 am)

don't believe there is a link between the way the tranny is programmed to operate and VSC at least in terms of the hesitation issue. VSC does do a lot of nasty stuff when it activates (cut throttle and tranny response, apply braking etc. etc.), but I can (intentionally) get the hesitation on my non-VSC Touring. So I just don't.
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Re: More On Avalon Performance [smith1] by user777
Aug 11, 2006 (10:18 am)
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Replying to: smith1 (Aug 11, 2006 9:17 am)

There is no clear correlation between hesitation/lag and VSC. People without VSC have reported it too.
 
I think that is correct. Doesn't the toyota implementation have a chime or audio alert when VSC is operating to bring the vehicle under control?

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