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Re: for those of you that think more is better [captain2] by niteone
Aug 10, 2006 (12:24 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Aug 10, 2006 11:34 am)

well, if that's the case, I still think they should at least be taking part in our discussions we're having on the Avalon transmission issue. That would be nice. But, they don't even do that. Maybe someone should direct that poster 'tmusa', over on the Camry boards to peak into here or at least make him aware we're discussing a problem over here with a Toyota product and maybe he can get someone else from Toyoata to join us, that would at least help. Even maybe get someone from Toyota to explain why the car does what it does, especially Avalons equiped with the VSC. I don't think that's to much to ask from Toyota.
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Re: for those of you that think more is better [niteone] by captain2
Aug 10, 2006 (1:10 pm)
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Replying to: niteone (Aug 10, 2006 12:24 pm)

the appearance of tmusa seemed to correspond with a number of photos that appeared on the site - pictures of Camrys loaded up onto wreckers - very effective it turns out. Some substantiation, as well, that Toyota does at least monitor what we are saying. And yes, an Avalon owner tried exactly what you suggest and was brushed aside as 'off topic'.
As far as the tranny behavior is concerned, I really believe that there is either nothing that can be done about it or Toyota hasn't figured out a way to tame these essentially electronic gremlins. As far as VSC and TRAC go, you need to understand that these 'safety' features do - stop you from doing something that IT doesn't 'think' you should!
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Re: for those of you that think more is better [captain2] by ctl
Aug 10, 2006 (1:27 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Aug 10, 2006 5:17 am)

newer mostly are better (or why buy "new car"?), not guaranteed better. you do your study and make your point of view. One can always choose to believe their old car is better just because it is theirs.
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Re: for those of you that think more is better [ctl] by captain2
Aug 10, 2006 (2:01 pm)
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Replying to: ctl (Aug 10, 2006 1:27 pm)

ctl - in the context of this discussion and my original point is that there is mounting evidence that the new 6 speed has the same (and maybe more) than the year old 5 speed in the Avalon and furthermore that the 05/06 5 speeds are certainly more problematic to many owners than the old column mounted 4 speed.
I own an 05 Touring and have driven it 33000 miles to this point, and yep - it is the most powerful, economical, and comfortable car I've ever owned. No plans to trade it in, drive too many miles for a lease, so therefore will likely keep it until the wheels fall off. And no, my transmission has NOT been what I would call any sort of problem - perhaps because of the way I 'learned' to drive it.
The 07 models are apparently continuing with little change including the 5 speed. My point - if more is better, buy the (otherwise well designed) Five Hundred 6 speed then you can have not only a transmission that doesn't know what gear to be in but a car that is too slow to boot. You'll save some money - at least initially.
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first shopping cart dent by lnt
Aug 10, 2006 (5:29 pm)
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I have had my Limited Avalon since March 05 and a couple of weeks ago, got my first shopping cart dent. I am so careful to park way off by myself. I am sure someone purposefully pushed their cart into my car. Anyway, I took it to a paintless dent repair shop today (recommended to me by a large dealership)and they worked on it about 45 minutes (no charge) and said they couldn't get it out because there was too sharp a crease and it would crack the paint. He said they could repair it and paint it ($225). I hate to do that because it is the cassis pearl and I'm afraid the paint will be difficult to match. He said they do it all the time. This company works primarily with auto dealerships repairing brand new cars that get dinged at the car lots or in delivery. I was shocked that dealerships would sell a car that had been dented and repaired - especially painted. Anyway, I am wondering if anyone has had their door painted and if anyone thinks it would be a problem. The company said they guarantee their work. They had a map of the area that showed all of the dealerships they do repair work for. The dent is all I can see when I look at my car now.
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Re: for those of you that think more is better [captain2] by wwest
Aug 10, 2006 (7:25 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Aug 10, 2006 1:10 pm)

"...either nothin that can be done..."
 
But there has been progress, of a sorts.
 
Toyota went to DBW to try to solve the problem.
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Re: first shopping cart dent [lnt] by limiteddriver
Aug 10, 2006 (10:26 pm)
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Replying to: lnt (Aug 10, 2006 5:29 pm)

Had a bumper scrape filled and painted (titanium color) by a similar person and you can not tell where the new paint is.
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Re: for those of you that think more is better [wwest] by niteone
Aug 11, 2006 (3:48 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Aug 10, 2006 7:25 pm)

"But there has been progress, of a sorts.
 
Toyota went to DBW to try to solve the problem"
 
Could you explain further? Isn't my 2006 XLS Avalon with VSC 'drive by wire'?
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Re: for those of you that think more is better [wwest] by tjc78
Aug 11, 2006 (3:53 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Aug 10, 2006 7:25 pm)

The main reason for going to DBW is so the computer can control the throttle when VSC has to kick in.

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