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#11663 of 14965 Re: Transmission Shutter [alan_s]
Mar 19, 2006 (6:32 am)
Thanks for your comments on the Avalon. I was interested in the XL, but now I'm not purchasing it due to the tranny issue. It has become more and more of a concern here on this thread. The prices have really come down on the 2006s, I can get an XL for $24,400 plus ttl. I guess its due in part to the new Camry.
I have to agree with you on the Honda Pilot and how good the tranny/engine work together. Honda has come a long way in this area since the 1980s. I owned several Hondas and Toyotas (all trucks from Toyota - really good vehicles). Hondas used to hesitate, shift poorly, etc. The 2004 Accord that I have has a very smooth tranny.
Anyway, thanks for everyone's comments, but this vehicle is out as is the Azera since the resale would be quite poor.
#11664 of 14965 K&N filters....
Mar 19, 2006 (7:25 am)
may give you about 3% to 5% improved HP, both only at times where the OEM filter can be considered to be restrictive, HIGH FLOW VOLUMES.
So, for a 300HP factory engine rating you might gain about 15HP at the torque curve peak.
Balance that with the HIGH possibility of contamination of the MAF/IAT sensors with oil wicked from the filter during those high flow volumes, and then dirt caked on the oil, and you'll begin to wonder if it was all worth the effort.
I have always wondered about this cold air intake issue so I did some research. That issue dates back to the long ago days when the engine air intake was somehere inside the engine compartment, downstream of the A/C condensor and radiator combination PRE-HEATING the airflow before it got to the engine air intake.
There have been several instrumented tests lately indicating that these cold air intake kits have NO BENEFIT WHATSOEVER provided the vehicle in question already has an equivalent intake system, as most modern day vehicles do.
#11665 of 14965 Re: Experiences of driving in manual S-mode please [ange]
Mar 19, 2006 (7:36 am)
"Every movement of the pedal responds to a given amount of fuel added...."
Toyota's DBW system, when coupled to an automatic transmission, does not respond to gas pedal position as you describe. Toyota uses DBW to "protect the drive train". While the transmission is in the process of shifting the onset of engine torque is intentionally delayed to give the transmission clutches time to fully and firmly seat.
In snow mode...
The "gain" is reduced, more pedal travel is required to produce a given level of engine torque, to make it easier for the diver to "feather" the engine and not provoke wheelspin/slip.
The system will sometimes totally ignore the gas pedal position.
You get the picture....
#11666 of 14965 Valve noise 2006 Limited Avalon
Mar 19, 2006 (11:43 am)
I have considerable noice inside the car when I am going slow in traffic, which sounds like valves rattling. It is very disturbing and I find that to eliminate it, I must turn the radio up louder that usual. I took it to the dealer and they said is was a new engine and it was normal. Not for me or any of the other 3 toytos I have owned. Also, they have cut corners with the one piece sun shade and elimination of side mouldings. Too bad.
#11667 of 14965 Re: Experiences of driving in manual S-mode please [wwest]
Mar 19, 2006 (12:10 pm)
As Adam said to Eve, on their way out of the Garden of Eden, "We are entering a period of transition, My Dear!"
Some drivers may regret the need to accommodate changes dictated by drive-by-wire systems in the Avalon and other new vehicles, but the direction is clear, as set out (among many other places)at http://mira.atalink.co.uk/articles/104 .
"There is considerable interest in increasing functionality and safety by developing drive-by-wire systems where electronic controls are used to supplement the driver controls or even provide full authority over the vehicle functions. In a full-authority drive-by-wire system, the driver controls are simply inputs to a computerised system rather than directly commanding the vehicle functions."
Military and commercial pilots are well-experienced in these changes; we 2D operators are headed in the same direction.
#11668 of 14965 Re: Hesitant Buyer [texasred1]
Mar 19, 2006 (1:36 pm)
Boy, Texasred1, I'm glad to hear you say that. I know that a value of this board is the pool resources for times when things go wrong, as they sometimes will, but a casual reader could get it idea this isn't a good car. It is!
I have 9,200 miles on my 06 limited, and love it more every time I get in it. Sure, I did have to have the dealer find and fix a rattle in the overhead just about the RR seat, but they did it quickly and without complaint. Other than that, I couldn't be happier with the car, it's mileage, or how I feel while driving it.
Oh, I did adjust the headlights slightly higher. I didn't feel safe on a dark two-lane road when going to low beam...in fact, they were so low that I didn't feel safe over about 50 mph. Now I'm happy, and I'll be most Avalon owners are too.
#11669 of 14965 Tire Rotation
Mar 19, 2006 (1:39 pm)
With a full-size spare on the Avalon, the Owner's Manual says to include it in the rotation on one side of the car while tires are rotated back-to-front. HOWEVER, the Avalon repair manual says to rotate front to back and then then put the (formerly) rear tires on opposite sides -- and also include the spare tire in the rotation. That way seems to be the best way to do it, however, Toyota says follow the Owner's Manual.
Does anyone have any experience or ideas on which way is better?
#11670 of 14965 Re: Hesitant Buyer [sully63]
Mar 19, 2006 (2:22 pm)
Don't hesitate. GO FOR IT!!
I bought a 06 Limited in January and now have 2200 miles on it. The car is phenomenal, amazing, beyond all expectations! It is so smooth I wonder if the wheels are touching the ground. It is so powerful it still scares me sometimes.
Is it perfect? No. I'm annoyed that the NAV controller has a mind of it's own. The NAV voice control usually misunderstands me and is more for entertainment than functionality. I wish it had Bluetooth, an iPod interface, and MP3/CD playback built in. I wish the rear seats would fold to expand the trunk when I really need it.
BUT, every time I drive my wife's Hyundai Sonata or my old Suburban (which I love) I'm reminded of what an incredible vehicle the Avalon is. We have some very loud voices in this forum that seem to suffer from a world so small that the highlight of their day is moaning about their Avalon. One or two, I'm convinced are ringers that don't even own one.
Every car has a glitch or two or a design flaw and the Avalon is no exception. However, I have never owned or driven any vehicle that even comes close to the refinement and performance of this car. The more I drive it the better I like it.
Mar 19, 2006 (2:34 pm)
Is the Avalon scheduled to have bluethooth like the RL any time soon?
#11672 of 14965 Re: Hesitant Buyer [tstrick320]
Mar 19, 2006 (2:37 pm)
Thanks Tstrick, Gypsy, TexasRed and others who took time to reply to my post. As I said,forums like these tend to gather the issues and not the accolades.
I'm debating between the Maxima SL and the Avalon Touring. I think I'm at a $2K differential price-wise with the Maxima having a few more whiz-bang features(based on a pricing from a no-haggle dealership that carries both)
To those lamenting the exclusion of Bluetooth on the Avalon, if you read into the various manufacturers offering you may not find your particular phone is supported. For example I have a Treo 650 and if I buy the Maxima, their website tells me it is not supported so how it works and to what extend I can use the various features is unknown. But it is part of a package and I will get it anyway. Seems strange that Bluetooth is marketed as a "standard" but apparently isn't so.