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You are in the Toyota Avalon
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Toyota Avalon, Sedan
#10747 of 14955 Re: Avalon anyone? [hylyner]
Dec 20, 2005 (8:17 am)
"According to JDP the Buicks do well, better than Toyota."
Just curious about the authenticity of this statement.
Is there a link to JDP comparison between Buick and Toyota?
Which models are being compared in making this claim?
to be honest I am over here only because the Host on the Lucerne forum asked an Avalon owner to check out this forum and basically stop riling up the Lucerne forum and I thought I would take a look. I probably will not be back here though.
But anyway, there was a question asked.
Per 2005 J.D.Power 2005 Vehicle Dependiblity Study the average 3 year old toyota vehicle owner had 194 problems per 100 vehicles. In other words about 2 problems per car. The average Buick owner had 163 problems per hundred vehicles. The average for all industry vehicles is 237. So both Buick and Toyota do very well. The Buicks in this study are the 2002 Century/Regal/LeSabre/Park Avenue/Rendezvous.
For 2005 models after 3 months of driving the Toyota brand had 105 problems per hundred vehicles and Buick had 100. Not a lot of difference. The average for all industry vehicles is 118. The Buicks in this study are the 2005 Century/LaCrosse/LeSabre/Park Avenue/Rendezvous/Rainier.
For 2005 vehicles the APEAL score for Toyota was 857 based on a 1000 point scale and Buick was 854. The average for the industry was 855. The Buicks in this study are the 2005 Century/LaCrosse/LeSabre/ParkAvenue/Rendezvous /Rainier.
I'm afraid I do not have the websites anymore. I am looking at printouts.
#10748 of 14955 Re: Avalon anyone? [62vetteefp]
Dec 20, 2005 (8:24 am)
Since the JDP data includes the RDZ, which has more than its share of problems, that lowers the Buick scores. Fair? Unfair? But it's a factor to consider in the comparison.
Looks like both are doing well in providing what _their_ buyers want.
#10749 of 14955 Re: Avalon anyone? [algee]
Dec 20, 2005 (9:03 am)
He's not wrong about most Nav systems being difficult to use. Example: I have two acquaintances who each own Mercedes E-Class sedans.($75-90K a copy!!) Both are equipped with nav systems. Neither one of them has EVER been able to use their system because they haven't been able to figure out how!! They laugh about it, but it is truly frustrating for them.
#10750 of 14955 Stereo removal instructions, nylon panel removal tool
Dec 20, 2005 (11:05 am)
Thanks, that might do the trick, I first need to investigate the ports on the JBL Radio.
Anyone know where I can get hold of the nylon panel removal tool?
Toyota SST# 00002-06001-01
Dealer would not aquire it for me unless I purchased the whole system from them.
Like I posted earlier, I'm just trying to hard-wire a Sirius Sportster Replay so I don't have to use the fm transmitter.
#10751 of 14955 Laser Cruise Control - plastic safety cover
Dec 20, 2005 (3:26 pm)
I am trying to figure out how to take off the cowling on my 2006 LTD to tape on a lexan cover to protect the glass lens of the Laser Cruise Control module. It was easy on my Sienna. But on the Avalon it seems like there is a screw holding it on. Has anyone taken off the cowling? If so how did you do it - does it just pop off or do you have to take off the cover below the bumper to get to the screw? The local dealer had no idea how to take off the cowling.
#10752 of 14955 Re: Stereo removal instructions, nylon panel removal tool [njny]
Dec 20, 2005 (3:43 pm)
If you have a toyota dealer that will not sell you a part tell them to kiss off. I would call around to other dealers and check with them. You may even try out of state or out of town and they may even sell it to you and arrange delivery.
Might find it on ebay but not likely. On the other hand I plan to buy the system later this month and install it myself in Jan. If I buy the tool, and i probably will, I would be willing to sell it to you, at my cost, at a later date...just a though.
#10753 of 14955 Re: Avalon anyone? [algee]
Dec 20, 2005 (4:25 pm)
Here we go again!!!!!!!
#10754 of 14955 Re: Avalon anyone? [zekeman1]
Dec 20, 2005 (4:31 pm)
Instead of all the emotocons, maybe a sympathy card might help?
I feel sorry for the guy--he's obviously bummed out about his ride, but how many times do we need to be reminded?
An off topic question for our Host: Is it possible for one person to post at Edmunds with different usernames and email addresses? If so, can Edmunds do anything about it?
#10755 of 14955 Let me say this about that
Dec 20, 2005 (4:58 pm)
Once again, we ALL need to accept the fact that while our car might be absolutely perfect, someone else's may not be. And if someone else's is not, and several other someone elses' are not, there is absolutely no reason to assume those other people are all the same person.
The personal comments HAVE to stop. If you don't believe a post, fine, just skip it and read the next one. If you have some comment to make about the poster, either email it to me, or keep quiet.
We are NOT going to continue bashing people because they say they have a problem. We also are not going to discuss this here. My email address is in my profile.