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#10666 of 14965 Re: The modern "OFF" switch [alan_s]
Dec 15, 2005 (9:45 am)
I have to agree with hylyner here on the topic. I have found no problem with the tranny in my Avalon Limited after 5 months of driving. The throttle is very responsive when I'm in an aggressive mood, but amazingly gentle in stop and go traffic.
I have driven both a Maxima and an Accord, and for the record, I've driven an Acura TSX and an TL. Although the Maxima is somewhat more responsive than the Avalon, I suspect that they are simply programming the computer in such a way as to please their target demographics. The TSX and TL perform similarly as the Avalon, and my friend, who is a car enthusiast and a proud owner of a well-maintained TSX, has confirmed that Honda is well-known for their automatic tranny problems, both hardware and computer.
I see no reason to get personal here. People simply notice different things. I have sharp ears, and I probably notice a lot more of the quiet rattles than most of you (being at the age of 23 probably helped). What the Toyota tranny is exhibiting may be by design. Some may argue that it's bad design, but there is the silent majority who think it's working just fine. My dad spent 1000 miles in my Avalon and he loved just how responsive it is compared to his 2001 XLS.
To each his own.
#10667 of 14965 Re: The modern "OFF" switch [fragmire]
Dec 15, 2005 (10:03 am)
Thanks for the supportive comments Fragmire. I've driven both the Maxima (extensively) and Accord (occasionally).
Both are very nice drives. I'll keep the Avalon though.(Our third Av, and and a number of other Toyotas since the 70s.)
You're right. To each his own.
#10668 of 14965 Transmission problem or not?
Dec 15, 2005 (11:02 am)
Does the Avalon have a transmission problem or not?
People and dealers appear to making excuses for a transmission or throttle problem. It's not uncommon for dealer to tell false truths to the public about problems. In many cases they refuse to admit that there is a problem.
Does the transmission really hesitate because it’s a learned behavior? Perhaps it needs Prozac in the oil.
Is the alleged problem with the transmission similar to the Lexus transmission issue? I refrained from buying an ES 330 a few years back b/c of the tranny problem and now I find myself doing the same thing on the Avalon….it’s a real shame b/c it's a nice looking car.
What every happened to Japanese quality….
#10669 of 14965 Re: Transmission problem or not? [tedescm1]
Dec 15, 2005 (12:15 pm)
The best answer anyone could can suggest to you is this: Some here will insist there is a problem, others will say no there isn't.
Some will report experiencing it, others will say it hasn't happened to them.
If human nature holds true, it's likely negatives outnumber positives in these forums because people tend to be more vocal about bad rather than good.
Truth be told, we haven't heard from the million or so who don't participate in these forums.
The very small percentage of yays or nays heard from in these forums is really no valid indication one way or the other.
The closest thing to any form of broad based opinion would be the many positive consumer surveys out there, PLUS the fact that Toyota in general is doing well in the market place. It's probably safe to say the Consumer wouldn't continue to buy anyone's product in such overwhelming numbers if it wasn't good.
As regards your question: "What happened to Japanese Quality?", It could be said that their quality hasn't changed, but the Big Three automakers have learned to do quality better. In other words, the playing field is much more level now than a few years ago. I for one, am glad to see that.
Now, if GM, Chrysler, and Ford can only get their fiscal ships in order......!
#10670 of 14965 Re: Avalon Odometer
Dec 15, 2005 (12:33 pm)
My 2006 Avalon is growing icicles in the odometer display and is camouflaging the fourth figure in my mileage reading. I bought the car this October and I am not happy about this at all. They are going to have to replace it, however, does anyone know the effects of such a repair and how it will affect the aesthetics of my dashboard area? Please inform.
#10671 of 14965 Re: Transmission problem or not? [hylyner]
Dec 15, 2005 (12:36 pm)
I am Ole Geaser and usually accelerate gradually from a stop position (I'm not a lead foot). My Avalon has 5000-miles and the transmission still cannot decide what gear it likes, it switches gears back and forth until I reach 35 to 45 MPH. I guess this would be called 'gear' hunting.
I wonder how Lexus corrected this problem on the E-300?
#10672 of 14965 Re: Transmission problem or not? [tedescm1]
Dec 15, 2005 (2:55 pm)
not a transmission problem [talk to some TL owners about those]- perhaps a computer problem
#10673 of 14965 Re: Transmission problem or not? [hylyner]
Dec 15, 2005 (3:07 pm)
>The very small percentage of yays or nays heard from in these forums is really no valid indication one way or the other.
The sample of car owners in this forum is a cross-section of all the cars sold. The people writing here received cars randomly. So this is a sample of the car.
#10674 of 14965 Re: Transmission problem or not? [imidazol97]
Dec 15, 2005 (3:26 pm)
Quote: "The sample of car owners in this forum is a cross-section of all the cars sold". Unquote.
Well my friend,, if you truly believe that, then perhaps we should sit down and talk about the bridge I have for sale!!
#10675 of 14965 Re: Transmission problem or not? [imidazol97]
Dec 15, 2005 (4:34 pm)
You are dead wrong. You CANNOT judge a car's reliability by what people posts on the internet forum. This is a very very unscientific method to determine whether a car is problematic or not. Some people specifically have a grudge against a particular manufacturer because for some reason the car didn't satisfy their needs. That certainly doesnt mean the car is defective