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Re: Floor mats and navigation discs [ange] by neil5
Oct 10, 2009 (5:07 am)
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Replying to: ange (Oct 09, 2009 7:45 am)

I went to Toyota yesterday. Only applies to rubber Toy mats not carpet...
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Re: Floor mats and navigation discs [neil5] by popsavalon
Oct 10, 2009 (5:32 am)
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Replying to: neil5 (Oct 10, 2009 5:07 am)

I have never seen a OEM rubber mat in a Toyota product. Is this offered in certain areas of the US?
I agree with necro1234, if the mats are properly hooked, it is impossible to get them under the accelerator. Maybe broken hooks are the problem.
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Re: Floor mats and navigation discs [popsavalon] by necro1234
Oct 10, 2009 (8:12 am)
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Replying to: popsavalon (Oct 10, 2009 5:32 am)

Ye, when I got my 2007 XLS, first thing I did was order these:

 
I've had carpeted mats that came with my driver side slip forward and bind under the pedal once (when the hooks where not in place).
Once I got my all weather mats from Toyota put in with the hooks though, this has never happened again. (and they have been there now for over a year).
 
The toyota dealership removed my driver side mat and stored it in my trunk.
 
To my annoymance (since my mind is logical enough to not see how it is possible for the mat to bind with the hooks in place, since I went to the trouble of actually testing the distance between the closest point of the pedal and the edge of the mat) my carpeting now has the oppertunity to get all that dirt pushed into it that these matts where purchased to avoid
 
I took some pics in my Avalon of the mat and distance, it measures to about 3" from the edge of the pedal to the edge of the matt when fully depressed. (with hooks in place).
 
I took some quick pics in my Avalon of what I see with the Toyota All-Weather matts.
 
Just look at the distance between the pedal here, the only way I can see such an event occuring is if those hooks are not used or if they BOTH break.

 

 

 
And here are our trusty hooks...

 
Cheers
 
Sheldon
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Re: Floor mats and navigation discs [necro1234] by wwest
Oct 10, 2009 (12:10 pm)
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Replying to: necro1234 (Oct 10, 2009 8:12 am)

You're forgetting that here in the US all automotive dealers are "free-lance" operations. No reporting responsibility to the parent marque whatsoever. So Toyota's TSB may be in response to so many of their dealers selling cheaply purchased aftermarket floor mats that do not have "hookability".
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Need Advice by rewop
Nov 05, 2009 (7:29 am)
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I recently paid $5,200 to have my valves replaced. There is a TSB out for "engine clicking noise," just the problem I was having. I am within warranty in years, but not in miles. I have asked Toyota customer service in CA to pay for the repair since no modern engine should experience valve failure shortly after 60,000 miles. I do not expect them to pay. I have an early-production Avalon and just about every problem that came with them and now the valves. Do you have any advice to help me handle the problem if I get rejected by the Toyota customer service department?
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Re: Need Advice [rewop] by popsavalon
Nov 05, 2009 (11:36 am)
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Replying to: rewop (Nov 05, 2009 7:29 am)

Please describe the repair procedure in more detail. What is the specific TSB?
I don't see how actual "valve replacement" would be required for an engine clicking noise. 60K miles does not seem to be enough to require replacement of major engine components like valves. What year is your vehicle, you mention "early production"?
 
If the repair was quoted at $5200 on a 60K vehicle, I think I would have had a lot more conversation with Toyota up front.
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Re: Need Advice [rewop] by jlsexton
Nov 05, 2009 (1:27 pm)
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Replying to: rewop (Nov 05, 2009 7:29 am)

First, you're correct, my Camry has 130,000, no problem with valves. If you maintained the Avalon properly then.
 
My opinion, be nice, ask politely, talk to a rep, try to get them to pay at least half.
 
Lastly, what is your small claims cap, if not high enough, than you must initiate a lawsuit to recoup your funds. I don't like having to sue but I have, usually the judge is sympathetic, especially in your case. And again to all, never purchase the first model year on any vehicle, too many bugs to work out. To rewop, you have my sympathy, I hate getting screwed, especially by Toyota.
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Re: Need Advice [jlsexton] by fin
Nov 05, 2009 (2:07 pm)
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Replying to: jlsexton (Nov 05, 2009 1:27 pm)

Once again, your post correctly points out a subject of great importance: the infamous "first year model" problems. Yes, you might get a good one. But the odds are that the following years will be better. Anyone wishing to confirm can read this forum end to end. Or read the 2007 up Lexus LS460 forum. Same story at twice the price.......
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Re: Need Advice [popsavalon] by rewop
Nov 05, 2009 (5:23 pm)
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Replying to: popsavalon (Nov 05, 2009 11:36 am)

Popsavalon: In response to my complaint of a ticking noise in the engine, the diagnosis for this 2005 Avalon was "found rear engine lifter starting to collapse. R-R rear engine cover and replaced lifters and gaskets." The TSB that addresses the engine ticking sound is TSB 0094-09. I think it was issued in March of this year but I'm not sure. The dealer who did the repair suggested I contact Toyota Customer Service and he gave me the number. He said Toyota would "do the right thing." I called and they rejected my claim. I wrote them a letter and got a form letter response. I called the letter writer who said she would talk to the supervisor and get back to me. I'm waiting.
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Re: Need Advice [jlsexton] by rewop
Nov 05, 2009 (5:31 pm)
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Replying to: jlsexton (Nov 05, 2009 1:27 pm)

My previous car was a '96 Toyota Camry XLE V6 which was a wonderful car. I gave it to one of my kids and he still has it. My '05 Avalon has been a headache since I owned it. I take care of all my cars (e.g. Mobil 1 every oil change) but in this case I would have been better off if it failed well inside the warranty. I haven't thought of a small claims court but I think I will check around and see if that might be a possibility.
One of my kids works in IT and he said to me before I bought the car "Dad, never buy version 1 of anything!" I should listen to my kids more.

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