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#37 of 46 Consequences of Oil Consumption by njjetta

Oct 18, 2003 (7:54 am)

It's a Saturday and once again I am checking the oil level in my '01 2.0 Jetta. I have found that I am looking at the 1 quart per thousand miles that several others are experiencing. The car has only 33k and I am a couple months away from the lease period. I have read the comments about how to proceed if you want VW to address the problem but I like this car and I need to decide whether I should buy it at lease end. Has anyone heard any definitive answers from a mechanical perspective as to how the life of the engine will be effected by this high consumption?? If someone has a true mechanics answer I would appreciate the info. Thanks

#38 of 46 njjeta/oil consumption by rc7762

Oct 18, 2003 (10:14 am)

It sounds like you really like your car but if you only have a couple of months left on your lease why would you not give the car back to VW and let this be their problem not yours? If you really like the Jetta that much why not lease or buy another one? and hope that the new one does not consume oil. I have never leased and maybe it's not that simple to just give the car back but do you really want to own a car that consumes that much oil if you don't have to?

#39 of 46 Good point, rc - by zueslewis

Oct 18, 2003 (10:35 am)

I've never seen an oil consumption case involving the VR6 engine...that might be a better choice than the 1.8T or 2.0.
 
I've done several hundred cases on Golfs and Jettas with those engines.

#40 of 46 njjeta/oil consumption by rc7762

Oct 18, 2003 (10:53 am)

It sounds like you really like your car but if you only have a couple of months left on your lease why would you not give the car back to VW and let this be their problem not yours? If you really like the Jetta that much why not lease or buy another one? and hope that the new one does not consume oil. I have never leased and maybe it's not that simple to just give the car back but do you really want to own a car that consumes that much oil if you don't have to?

#41 of 46 Sound Advice by njjetta

Oct 19, 2003 (10:54 am)

I appreciate the comments on whether or not I should turn in the Jetta. While talking with some fairly knowledgable car guys this weekend, the general consensus is to give back the car. I should have no problem since I'll be below the mileage and the car is very clean. I had planned to buy it since you take the big hit on depreciation when you lease and we certainly do like the car. Unfortunately, unless I hear that VW is going to make some arrangements to address the high consumption, I'll have to give it back. Does anyone know if this is still an issue with the new 2.0 motor?? Any input would be help.

#42 of 46 Njjetta's Lease... by balticjetta18t

Oct 19, 2003 (11:06 pm)

Remember that the true basis of a lease is to pay payments that cover the depreciation of the vehicle plus lease charges/interest based on the negotiated price of the car when leased out. An advantage of the lease is to have more brand new vehicles for the same periods of time you pay payments conventionaly but less. In addition your bumper to bumper portion of your warranty is over which can be more important for all the other things that can go wrong. Yes your Powertrain on the 2001 is 10/100K, but you dont want to have to keep feeding it oil every 3 fuel stops. This is your best window to walk away and just get a new o4 or o3 with no oil eating problems.

#43 of 46 njjetta by fish8

Oct 20, 2003 (5:39 am)

I also have a 2002 2.0 and experience 0 consumption issues. I have actually never had to add oil to my car between oil changes (5K miles). So, to answer your question, I hope VW has addressed the oil consumption issues and new VW's are cured.
 
Also, did you know VW has a program (Pull Ahead) out right now that offers to pay your remaining lease payment (up to 12 months of pmts) and you can get into another VW with no negative equity problems?

#44 of 46 Lease Pull Ahead by njjetta

Oct 20, 2003 (8:27 am)

Yes fish8, thanks for suggesting the Pull Ahead program and the info on the new 2.0 engines. I did hear about it through several ways. The dealer called first and then I got the letter from VW. Seems they are very interested in moving some '03 cars. I did start a conversation with the dealer and learned of the 1.9 financing on purchase of '03 Jettas & Passats and a $1000 dollar credit for current owners. I wanted to avoid taking the depreciation hit on another car but it looks like I'm heading in that direction. Has anyone heard of any other incentives that might be available? Would like to stay with VW.

#45 of 46 njjetta by fish8

Oct 20, 2003 (10:12 am)

You can look in Edmunds or the VW site for any available incentives. Good luck with your search for a new car.
 
BTW: VW and the dealer contacted you about the Pull Ahead program? I hope I get contacted next spring or summer. I would love getting into another VW.

#46 of 46 by MrShift@Edmunds HOST

Oct 21, 2003 (9:19 am)

You had asked about the negative effects of oil consumption on the life of a car.
 
My answer would be "it depends".
 
It depends on how much oil is being consumed and whether that amount will adversely affect the emissions system (stress it out, or cause premature parts failure).
 
But if the oil consumption is ridiculously excessive, the engine could run forever, as long as you add oil.
 
I'd say a quart every 1K miles is really pushing it if you want to remain optimistic about the future of the engine. If it were 2K/quart, I'd be more encouraging, or if we knew it would stabilize at 1K for the next 100K miles, I'd be more encouraging. But as it is, given the low miles on this engine, I'm with the others in suggesting you turn it in or have the engine repaired during warranty. Otherwise, I suspect this is going to get worse over time, given the known issues with some VW engines.

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